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In Love w/ Straight Best Friend?

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  1. cc1997

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    Please bare with me because I know this has probably been posted hundreds of times, but I'd appreciate it if you read through.
    I'm a High School sophomore, 16 years old, & I'm pretty confused about my sexuality. Most of freshman year I had a huge crush on one of my good friends (a girl), & while it never transpired, all it did was further confuse me about my sexuality. For the last 8 months, I've fallen madly in love w/ my best friend (a guy). We've been best friends since we were young, nothing more, but now I think about him in a very different light; I think about him all the time and just seeing him makes me feel happy. We hang out every weekend, we've gotten high together, we've gotten drunk together, we sing together, we've had nights where we stay up for hours on end just laughing and talking. He has some tendencies which pathetically make me cling to the belief that he's bisexual. He often does stuff like grab my ass jokingly, put his arm around my waist, hug me from behind, even jokingly quickly finger my butthole when he's behind me (all the time). He's showed me dick pics he's taken of himself, & every time I'm at his house we have a mutual agreement that I massage his belly (a secret fetish of mine), and occasionally he'll let me lay my head on his belly like a pillow, with my head rising and falling with his breaths & he'll run his fingers through my hair and gently ruffle it and I'm in total bliss. In the summer when I take my shirt off to sleep sometimes he'll trace my abs w/ his finger (sometimes at my request). When I sleep at his house, I pull my mattress on the floor closer to his bed, because he makes me feel safe, and if he falls asleep with his arm hanging over the bed, I touch my hand to his gently enough not to wake him up, because any physical contact with him at all is so meaningful to me. In the mornings afterwards when I usually wake up first, I just watch him sleep for a little while because I feel protective of him and because he looks so beautiful and peaceful when he sleeps. Despite all this I'm pretty sure he's straight. He talks all the time to myself and our friends about how often he masturbates (to straight porn) to the point where it may be a cover-up sort of thing. Ironically, I think he probably has a crush on the same girl I liked last summer (funny how things work out that way). When I liked this girl , I would have sexual thoughts and occasionally masturbate while thinking about her, but nothing even remotely like the level of sexual attraction I have towards my friend. I'm so head over heals for him, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he's picked up on some of my affection towards him, although I'm not sure. I've never ever told anyone I'm gay before, but I love him so much, and he means the world to me. Everytime he says "I love you" to me as a friend, I melt. I'm so happy having him as a friend in the position I'm in right now, but the notion of him finding out and accepting me and liking me back is almost too tantalizing. I constantly find myself wanting to tell him how I feel, but I'm afraid to lose my best friend as a result.
    I understand how trivial this all sounds coming from a 16 year old who has his whole life in front of him, and I know there are plenty of fish in the sea, but I'm pretty hung up right now so any advice would really be appreciated.
     
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    Hey, I'm a girl and I'm going through something quite similar. I always thought I was straight and then I began having feelings for my best friend.. I'm 18 and she is 16 and it is not trivial. How you feel is how you feel and it's real and it's okay to have those feelings. I have fallen so hard for my best friend, and no matter how much I try and stop and try and deny it, it won't go away. It's just like you, when she leans on me, or touches my hand, or tells me she loves me, or when we are changing clothes in the same room, I just melt. There's never a sure fire answer when it comes to a situation like ours, because we don't no for sure if the feelings are mutual... In my opinion, the first step should be to mention gays and find out his opinion on being gay. I hope that this helps a little!
     
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    Awww :slight_smile: that was so cute!

    Well anyway he is bi or gay and u need to ask him out bc he seems damn worth it plus u guys might get married one day and even if u don't u might get some good sex out of him. Well have a great day! I love u! :kiss:
     
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    I can tell you I have been in the same boat. My issue is I am on the fence on whether or not you should hell him or not.

    Myself I keep it to myself which sucks, but that is me and I hope it can be different for you.
     
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    I hope you get what you want buddy, im gay and I fancied my str8 mate
     
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    Last night I tried to get him to open up to me a little bit - he's really outgoing like me, but he never talks seriously about his feelings at all. Ever. On the other hand, other than my sexuality, I'm willing to talk to my close friends about anything and everything going on in my life, and exactly how I feel about it. I started by getting through a little bit by talking about his parents recently divorcing since mine did a couple years ago, and while I think he was pretty uncomfortable bringing it up at all, it didn't go to badly. From there, it took a while, but I got him to reveal to me a long standing crush he's had on one of our good friends (a girl). It was obvious to me how different we are in how we handle our problems and feelings. I don't really know, but maybe it's a good thing to have one talker and one listener out of the two of us, and it'll balance out.
    As disappointing as it was to hear from him about his longstanding crush on this girl, I can't say I'm terribly surprised. Nonetheless, taking the bad with the good, I don't think he's ever opened up to any of his friends the way he did last night to me (although in the grand scheme of things, he didn't want to go into depth about anything), so I guess he trusts me a lot which is good to hear. Last night he told me he was sore so he accepted my offer to give him a shoulder rub, and while it went okay at first, when I started to move my body closer to his from behind he subtly pulled away a little bit. As much as that disappointed me, to make matters more confusing, 20 minutes later when we were walking around his kitchen, he cut me off out of nowhere and just pressed his hand against my chest gently so I just naturally did the same to him and while it only lasted a few moments, and of course it seems really trivial, just that touch meant so much to me. I went to bed not really sure whether to be optimistic or not about how the night went, and when he left early the next morning expecting to be home before I wake up (which is usually pretty late), when I woke up soon after he'd left, I went into his bed, and just laid there, thinking things over. It only made it that much more difficult to focus because in laying on his pillow, just being surrounded by his scent, was so dreamy and disarming, and gave my that same feeling of safety that I have when I sleep near him on the floor.
    When he got back, we played putt putt, went out to lunch, played basketball, and it was probably the most beautiful day of the year so far, and while we had a great time, the only thing that was missing was his affection for me, and then it would have been perfect.
    Every time we make prolonged eye contact or touch I can't even think straight, but I'm starting to get scared I'm convincing myself I have a chance when I know I really don't.
    I want him so so so badly, and I wish that him understanding how much I want him was enough to convince him to give me a shot. Rejection right now would absolutely crush me, but I know eventually someone else would come along and I'd be able to let go. What I'm most scared about is that even if he does a decent job at faking it, that he'd never look at me the same if I came out to him, or furthermore told him I have feelings for him. At this point with all the happiness and sexual frustration and fear of rejection and hope he gives me, I'm not sure whether or not I wish I didn't feel about him the way I do. At this point for me it's all about weighing risk vs. reward, which is impossible because both are so high stakes. Thanks everyone for your advice so far, it was kind of a warm, weird feeling for me to be reassured and supported having openly talked about my questions of my sexuality for the first time. Any advice would be appreciated.
     
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    Wow that is fantastic well done you, when I told my str8 mate im gay, he ran a mile
     
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    Good luck, and read lightly my friend, I haven't been in that situation, I love my friends but not that way, But I know a lot of strait guys are really freaked out by it, I'm lucky that when I came out to my best friends a few days ago they were very cool about it. Said how out didn't make me any less awesome which I love them all the more for.

    Good luck, just fight for those moments that you can feel that mutual attraction, it will lead him more and more to believing the two of you are a possibility, who knows, he may be having similar confused feelings about you, just tread lightly
     
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    Hey that's fantastic that your friends was supportive, mine just ran away. My mates believe if your gay u have aids or u are going to turn them gay, its so painful not being able to have friends to talk to about my feelings thats why I joined this.
     
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    Yeah I was blessed with that, but one of them is a lesbian, so that would have been rather hypocritical of her. The other is a strait man but he has been my best friend for a decade honestly his reaction was strange. He was completely fine with it but when I told him I was gay I said don't worry because I'm not attracted to him that way. His response was to ask me why not, and then we went on to talk about it for a little bit after (through text messages) and I'm not sure but it felt odd. Which is weird because he's got a wife and kid, I don't know if it's just my overactive imagination playing tricks on me or what, but it seemed like he was talking like he like likes me.

    I don't know I never thought about him like that and it's weird, I hope it's my imagination because I don't want to be the cause of a family breaking up. I'm sort of stressed about it. I'm sure it has to be my imagination though right?
     
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    I dont wanna say just straight out and ask him because I dont want u guys to have an argument and fall out but text back like cheeky stuff see what he responds,
     
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    Lucky of you Bi/homosexual people who haven't fallen in love with straight friends. But I've been there too, and I know how it hurts. The big question in this kind of relationship is "should I tell them or not?", and constantly podering the pros and cons, and sometimes just feel like burtsting for keeping it all in.
    In your relationship with your friend, I can see in his behaviour some kind of ambuiguity. Maybe he just doesn't know he's gay yet, but I insist that he doesn't seem to be ready to realise it. Just keep your feelings for yourself now, and wait for the right moment to tell him. Don't consider keeping them forever, you'll regret it. If you tell him, I think that since you are so close he'll take it well. He may even want to give it a try or he'll just feel happy you were honest with him. In any case, tell him when you think he's ready. Don't rush it :slight_smile:
     
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    Things are starting to get more difficult. I notice myself gravitating towards him no matter what the circumstance when we’re together, even in a group. This past weekend us and a few of our other friends got high in a friend’s basement, and afterwards I went back to his house. Once we got back to his house we usually go down to his basement to watch TV and talk, but since we were both exhausted, we went straight to his room instead. Since my clothes smelled like weed he gave me a shirt of his to wear, and he stripped down naked in front of me before getting in the shower. It took all my willpower not to stare, but I did catch a glimpse of him from the back as he walked to his bathroom. I turned on one of the NBA playoff games to distract myself while he was in the shower. When he got back he changed and then got in his bed, and while I’d been sitting on his bed watching TV, instead of lying down on the air mattress on the floor he’d set up for me, I continued to watch the game sitting on his bed while he was lying in bed next to me. At one point he told me he had a stomach ache so he rolled over and I caressed his stomach while we watched the game. At one point his stomach started growling, so I put my head near it to listen, and hesitantly laid my head down on his stomach, like a pillow, and he didn’t seem to mind, so for about 10 minutes I laid my head on his stomach while we watched the game, the only thing keeping me from falling asleep to the rise and fall of his belly was an occasional comment about the game. Eventually both of us were silent for a few minutes, me hoping we’d fall asleep in that position, but unfortunately he just rolled over and say he was too tired to keep watching. So I sat up and watched the end of the game for a couple more minutes, and then he pushed his butt against mine, mumbling some acknowledgement I didn’t quite catch, but the warmth of his butt against mine and the cadence of his breath made that moment perfect. He fell asleep and at one point, I decided that while he was asleep, I’d just wrap my hand around his. And he’s not a terribly heavy sleeper, but for some reason, this time, he didn’t move, so for about 20 minutes, I just sat watching the post game highlights, even though I couldn’t care less, enjoying every second of holding his hand, even though there was no mutual affection on his part. The next morning we went to breakfast, and most of our conversation consisted of the pros and cons of going full shave. I’d told him about how I’d tried once, and accidentally cut my balls, but he eventually persuaded me, so I promised him I’d try later. When later came around, I texted him play-by-play of how it was going, and of course he laughed when I told him I cut the right side of my dick. But when I was finished, he sent me a snapchat for a few seconds of his dick. A mirror shot. In the past he’s jokingly pulled up a picture of his dick on my phone and shove it in my face, but he’s never actually snap chatted me a picture of his dick. So, although I’m not as bold as his is about this stuff, decided to seize the opportunity, and fittingly respond with a dick pick of my own. He’s about 5’7, 170lbs built thick. He’s got gorgeous hazel eyes and for being 16 he’s got very formidable facial hair, which is usually the perfect level of scruffy. Coarse black hair with a coif in front. He’s got perfect teeth and whenever he smiles I’m pretty sure I must blush. e’s muscular, but he has a little fat on his stomach, which is my favorite, although he and I are appearance-wise, almost polar opposites. I’m about 6’0, 130, very thin, and unfortunately, I can’t grow any facial or body hair worth taking seriously. I’ve got dark blonde hair, in a coif similar, but a little longer his, and now that I’ve had my braces off for a couple months, nice teeth and a shy smile, although I’m almost always the most outgoing person in the room. Both of us are good looking guys, being able to pull attractive girls at parties, and it still resonates with me today, when one of my friends, a girl, drunk at a party saw my arm around his shoulder when we were both drunk said we make a cute couple. I’m at that point right now where obviously he’s not the single hottest guy at our school, but to me, he’s perfect.
     
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    All of our friends went to dinner tonight, me bringing along my girlfriend, a freshman, a year younger than us. We’ve dated for about 4 months, but of course I’ve never really liked her as anything more than a friend. I started to feel guilty when I realized that even though she should have been the object of my affection the entire night, I’m pretty sure I must have been fixated on this guy I like from across the table, the entire night, and I couldn’t believe how I was getting jealous from just seeing him engage in conversation with one of my other friends. After dinner I drove my girlfriend home, and for the first time, we opened up to each other about how we were both distant from our families, the first time we’ve actually had a deep conversation with each other. When we got back to her house, we didn’t even kiss, but she looked at me and told me how good a time she had talking to me, and the thing that killed me was the look in her eyes. She’s absolutely gorgeous - Asian, only about 5’4, long silky black hair, and has a fantastic body, and everyone comes up to me and tells us how gorgeous a couple we are, and I know how easy everything would be if I liked her back. But when she looked at me tonight, I just see in her eyes how much she liked me; genuinely, seriously loved being with me. And after I pulled away, putting on music, I headed for the highway. on the way to her house a massive thunderstorm had started, so by the time I was leaving from her house, the rain had subsided but the lightning was absolutely incredible. I was driving on the highway, mixed feelings, pensive about her, and then ‘Bad Religion’ by Frank Ocean came on shuffle. If you don’t know the song, Frank Ocean, who’s bisexual, sings the entire song about the first guy he fell in love with, and it being an unrequited love, and it’s basically the most beautiful, gut-wrenchingly relatable song I know of, so when it started playing I lost it. Everything crashed down on me at once. It started with thinking about the look in her eyes - the guilt of knowing I’ll never be able to reciprocate the same way with her. And then the second part - I realized how often I must look like that at my guy friend. How often he must be talking to me and I must just gaze at him with that exact same look. And then I just lost it. I had the air conditioning on, but I felt like it must have been 100 degrees in my car. I couldn’t breathe, I was sweating, and I had to pull over on to the side bank of the freeway. It felt so cliche and dramatic with the lightning overhead, with me bent over outside my car having a panic attack, gasping for air, viscerally desperate for some sort of affection on his side - one of those moments where he puts his arm around me unannounced, or tells me I look good when I occasionally wear my glasses, or just hugs me behind. Anything. In that moment, I’ve never wanted his arms wrapped around me so badly in my entire life. So I collected myself, went home, and stole some of my mom’s vodka she uses for cooking - hoping some liquid courage might get me closer to what I want so badly. She was asleep by this point so she didn’t notice when I downed a couple shots and went back to my room to text him. I prefaced by explaining I was a little bit drunk, and that I wanted to talk. I told him how badly I needed someone to vent to. We have a friend who moved in 8th grade to Los Angeles to pursue acting, and we’re both wired the same way creatively, and even though he lives 2,000(?) miles away, he’s been able to give me some great advice to help me through family and friend problems. So I told my friend how even though I have our friend in LA to vent to, how badly I need someone to talk to here in Cleveland. In person. How even though he doesn’t ever open up about personal things like I do, how my parents went through a horrible divorce when I was 10, much like his parents are divorcing now, and how if he ever needed someone to talk to, I want nothing more than to listen to him vent. It marked the first time I’ve ever point blank told him that I consider him my best friend, and the first time I’ve ever point blank said to him, “I love you ____”, with complete seriousness. Not in a friendly way where I’d yell “love ya” as I was leaving his house, but completely serious. And with every advance I’d made in our discussion, with him eventually telling me he probably needs someone to vent to, and he’s always there for me to talk to, it all seem invalidated by one word, and that was the “bro” he added on the the end of his “I love you too” response. I’m here, typing this at 1:30 in the morning right now, still hopeful, as irrational and stupid it may be, that he could maybe still like me back. As things stand right now, over the summer, I plan to get drunk with him, and take him somewhere in private, and tell him I’m bisexual (I’m pretty sure I’m straight-up gay at this point, but I feel like telling him I’m bisexual might be easier to digest in the midst of a pretty hard-to-digest discussion). Whether or not at that point I would then and there proceed to tell him that it’s HIM who I want so badly, I’m not quite sure yet. To tell him that he’s who I lay in my bed at night thinking of. Who I literally want nothing more in the entire world than to cuddle and be the little spoon with. Who I excitedly accept the opportunity to “see something really cool” while knowing ahead of time he’s only saying it only so he wouldn’t have to grab his homework from his car alone, even though I like that better anyways. Any time we’re grabbing lunch and he needs money, or he needs help cleaning up the aftermath of a smoke session in his basement before his mom gets home, I only want to make him happy. Hopefully in the end, it all works out. I really really really hope it does. I’ll keep you guys posted. Honestly I appreciate any and every comment/piece of advice I get on this thread so thank you so much to everyone that's posted.
     
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    Even half way through the message I was convinced that he was bi. If you two are such good friends then maybe you could tell him that you like guys, and see how that goes. If all goes well, then tell him that you like him. Thats what I did with my girlfriend, I dont know if it'll be the same for you though.
     
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    Well, I hope it goes well for you too.
    Just be prepared that there's a big possibility he's straight. But no matter what you should still be friends, because having a friend like that is incredibly valuable.

    My recommendation would be to come out to him (if you're sure he's not homophobic or anything) and see where that takes you. Good luck :slight_smile:
     
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    I have to be honest: your last post made me tear up a little bit. It brought back memories of my strong feelings for my best friend. Like you, I began to question my sexuality when I developed feelings for him, and over a period of a few months it became unbearable. So I totally understand what you are going through.

    I certainly think it's time that you start opening up to him about your sexuality, but you do need to be cautious about how you go about it. You should definitely come out to him, but I would be wary of telling him that you're in love with him, at least right away. On one hand, he might already suspect it. You stare at him, hold his hand, rub his belly. People tend to pick up on those signals. But on the other hand, you don't want to overwhelm him and a lose a close friend. That nearly happened to me, and it took me months to repair the friendship.

    I would recommend coming out to him and seeing how you feel. That may help release some of the pressure and raw emotion you have locked inside of you right now. If in a few weeks or months you still feel as desperate as you do now, then maybe you tell him about your feelings. A few months from now, when he is used to the idea of you being gay (or bisexual), it won't come as such a shock to him.

    I know this is incredibly difficult, and I know your friend seems like the only thing in the world right now that matters, but things do get better. Even if he is straight (which, to be frank, is likely), the world will continue spinning and you will find someone else who can reciprocate your feelings and love. I tell you this from personal experience going through almost the exact same thing. Hang in there bud. :slight_smile:
     
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    I'm currently having a pretty similar issue. I have taken a likening to my straight friend. Unlike you, it's not quite to the intense personal contact degree you have (I wish though!). He pretty consistently stays fairly neutral with a only a few signs that he's straight. He doesn't get all touchy feeling, hold my hand or anything like that.
    I can't imagine how much of a tease and frustration it is he does all this and yet he seems to be straight when he's in public.

    Are you two only ever alone together when he does the physical contact? It appears to me in public he acts more or less as your typical straight guy but in private shows affection to you. What I'm suggesting is he might be bi/gay but just not ready to make it public. That said I don't know the guy though. I can't be sure.

    Do you fell you make it pretty obvious (intentional or not) that you enjoy the physical contact you guys share? If so, it surprises me that he hasn't asked you if you're straight or not.

    Tread carefully though. I can picture this in my mind a scenario where all of this stuff has a huge suggestion he might have feelings for you, you pop the question if he's gay, doesn't take it well so then he stops the physical contact that you have been enjoying because you took it as something more than he was intending it to be.
     
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    Saturday things got weird. The day started with myself and some friends going to our school’s rivalry lacrosse game drinking four loko out of Starbucks cups (which I have to admit is the most laughably stereotypical high school scenario you could ever imagine), and after picking up some alcohol, the night looked pretty promising. Cutting to the chase, after my girlfriend got in trouble with her parents and left our party early on, my friend (that I’m in love with) decided he was particularly horny and wanted a blow job. So, of course, since I would do anything for him, I reluctantly ended up picking up a drunk freshman from her house only to have her suck my friend’s dick in the backseat of my car once we got back to the party (of course I wasn’t in the car). At the party, I was in a pretty shitty mood, considering my crush was getting blown by a girl in my backseat, and my girlfriend, although it doesn’t actually provide me with any sexual pleasure over an imagine of normality, left before we could hook up. After an hour of keeping to myself at the party, I had agreed to be the DD and take a few freshman home, but of course, when it was time to leave, my friend was still getting his blow job, which leads to an interesting development. That night, as well as 2 weeks prior, when he received his 1st blow job, he was with the girl getting his dick sucked for over an hour both times, but failed to climax. After dropping the girls off and heading back to his house, we laughed about it which prompted him to say, “I think I’m pretty sure I’m not gay.” Probably wishful thinking, but in my opinion not a terribly convincing answer. Anyway, that night, nothing out of the normal happened, other than for the first time he referred to me as his best friend. Although of course while I’m in love with him, that meant a ton to me, as many time’s I’ve referred to him as mine, and this being the first he’s reciprocated. I mean looking back, I’m realizing I want him so badly I’m actually pushing MYSELF further into the friend zone just to be closer to him. Nothing drastic happened, but I noticed then that progressively I’ve been able to maintain eye contact for longer periods of time when talking to him, which is something at one point I was so shy I was virtually unable to do. The next day, we all went out to breakfast, and on our way back to my car, he just threw his arm around me and hugged me completely unannounced, which pretty much made my day. He told me at breakfast how he finds it so easy to text girls on a regular basis, even without the intention of hooking up, but he doesn’t ever really text guys that much. And then last night we texted consistently for an hour plus, with the conversation ending in me telling him “night” and “love you” and him just responding with him responding with “☺️”. I don’t know, again probably looking too hard into it, but I’m pretty sure I fell asleep with a smile on my face.
    Today I broke up with my girlfriend. I’d been talking to her best friend for a couple days on how to make the break up as painless as possible, and of course, everything that could go wrong did. Word got out to her beforehand, and I spent my entire Chemistry class, last period of the day, receiving texts from multiple people that she was in the bathroom sobbing. When the period was over, I met her in an empty classroom and tried as best I could to explain myself. It’s tough, because simply explaining that over the course of our dating, I’d come to terms with the fact that I’m gay, and that rather than be in love with her, I’d fallen in love with my best friend, that would have made perfect sense. But since of course I didn’t do that, I had to do the best I could to reassure her she hadn’t done anything wrong, and that she deserved better than me. The thing that really killed me was how confused and distressed she was. When she looked at me and just told me, “but I still really really fucking like you and I just don’t know what to do”, I felt sick with the thought of putting myself in her shoes, praying one day I don’t have to say something along those lines to my friend. Despite how torn up I was breaking up with her, purely because of how hard it was hitting her, I held my composure pretty well, and said all the right things. However, she inevitably left crying, and I just laid on the floor of that empty classroom for about 10 minutes just processing everything, including the thought crossing my mind this very well may be the last girlfriend I ever have. I collected myself and walked back to the lobby where my friend, (who’d agreed to wait for me and go to Chipotle afterwards) and the rest of our group were waiting for me. They all converged on me asking questions and trying to reassure me I did the right thing, and of course, my friend says to me probably the most loaded thing he could possibly say, and in front of everyone, in a non-serious way, says to me, “If you broke up with her because you’re gay, please make me next up.” And at that moment, I didn’t know whether to laugh because of how eerily accurate he’d unintentionally just been, or to blush and try and savor the moment, or to bash my head against a wall because it may never happen. But I just laughed, and I’m sure if you payed attention hard enough I probably blushed a little too. It was kind of weird, it was like one of those moments in a movie where because of what you’d just been told, everything else just goes on mute and you’re left contemplating what just happened. In that span a few of my guy friends jokingly grabbed my ass and told I have a nice butt (it’s a blessing and a curse being gay and having a circle of friends that are so touchy-feely), but of course it barely even registered in the moment. So today was weird too, as most of my days are becoming now. I’m growing distant from my parents, relying more heavily on my friends, drinking, smoking, it’s been kind of a transformative year for me. Although in about a month when I plan to come out to one of my guy friends (who lives in LA), and then contemplate coming out to THE guy friend, I’m sure right now is gonna seem pretty normal in comparison. Hopefully things go alright. I’ll keep posting in the meantime, and I honestly do appreciate every single comment/piece of advice I get on this thread, so thanks to everyone that’s posted so far.
     
  20. NattyBoo33

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    Wow I didn't know stuff like this happens in real life.
    People have it so lucky. While others, like me, don't even have guy friends in-person. I'd rather have a complicated friendship like this rather than none at all. It's so entertaining.