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gay = freak?

Discussion in 'General Support and Advice' started by alextiago, Mar 26, 2016.

  1. alextiago

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    Hello! Since I have coming out to some friends, they started talking about how gay people are always looking for "casual" sex...I mean one friend said to me : "Im ok with you being gay but dont try anything "more sexual" with me" WTF :astonished: I said I was gay not a stupid sexual freak! This makes me trully sad,because Im not like that.

    Why people think that? There arent gays "like me"?

    ...ps: sorry about my english, not my native language :slight_smile:
     
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    It's a sad stereotype which is believed and perpetuated by so many people, unfortunately.

    It is simply not true. Sure some people are sex-crazed, but that's just as common with heterosexual as it is with homosexual people.
     
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    Humans as a species are sexual creatures, other than dolphins and chimpanzees only humans have sex for pleasure. Unlike those guys though, we've demonized sex, made it something to be frightened of.
    Now there have been homosexuals, bisexuals, and even transgendered people since the time of ancient Babylon, perhaps even before that, but nevertheless the "status quo" is that all people "should be" cisgendered and heterosexual. That's how the world takes to viewing people upon first contact.
    So, when a guy meets a girl for the first time, under this established status quo, there's a part of them that realizes that the other may desire to have sex with the other, and this creates a sort of wall between the two of them.
    You know the wall, even if you haven't thought about it like that before. It's the wall that says that boys need different bathrooms from girls in public places. The wall that says it's inappropriate for girls to look at naked boys unless they're married.
    So when you break this status quo, and tell a boy that you don't think about girls that way, or even that you do not you also think about other boys that way, you're actively putting up a similar wall between you and the guys you tell it to.
    You're telling them that there's a POSSIBILITY that you might think of them in a sexual way. They don't know if you do (and if you don't and you tell them so they may get offended that you don't think they're attractive enough), but they also don't know that you don't. No reassurance will ever prove it, and it's that uncertainty that they now have to deal with.
    People aren't used to the wall existing between them and people of the same sex. You're used to avoiding the girls bathroom, because according to the status quo, if you go into the girls bathroom you'll get the chance to view their nude bodies, and that's inappropriate. Now all of a sudden, you're telling these guys that "they can't go to the same bathroom" because "he might try to check out my junk".. I'm not saying that's the case, but simply trying to explain this wall I'm describing.
    In reference to my favorite book, which taught me many life lessons, "People are stupid. A person will believe Anything, either because they're afraid it's true, or because they want it to be true". Which means, you open the possibility in their minds that you could possibly want to do very naughty things with them, and even if it's not the case and despite all attempts to convince them otherwise, they may be afraid of that possibility. That fear will turn your desires (the ones in their minds, not your real desires) into truth in their minds.
    I think I'm rambling at this point, I'll stop before it becomes a novel... Sorry.
     
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    Humans as a species are sexual creatures, other than dolphins and chimpanzees only humans have sex for pleasure. Unlike those guys though, we've demonized sex, made it something to be frightened of.
    Now there have been homosexuals, bisexuals, and even transgendered people since the time of ancient Babylon, perhaps even before that, but nevertheless the "status quo" is that all people "should be" cisgendered and heterosexual. That's how the world takes to viewing people upon first contact.
    So, when a guy meets a girl for the first time, under this established status quo, there's a part of them that realizes that the other may desire to have sex with the other, and this creates a sort of wall between the two of them.
    You know the wall, even if you haven't thought about it like that before. It's the wall that says that boys need different bathrooms from girls in public places. The wall that says it's inappropriate for girls to look at naked boys unless they're married.
    So when you break this status quo, and tell a boy that you don't think about girls that way, or even that you do not you also think about other boys that way, you're actively putting up a similar wall between you and the guys you tell it to.
    You're telling them that there's a POSSIBILITY that you might think of them in a sexual way. They don't know if you do (and if you don't and you tell them so they may get offended that you don't think they're attractive enough), but they also don't know that you don't. No reassurance will ever prove it, and it's that uncertainty that they now have to deal with.
    People aren't used to the wall existing between them and people of the same sex. You're used to avoiding the girls bathroom, because according to the status quo, if you go into the girls bathroom you'll get the chance to view their nude bodies, and that's inappropriate. Now all of a sudden, you're telling these guys that "they can't go to the same bathroom" because "he might try to check out my junk".. I'm not saying that's the case, but simply trying to explain this wall I'm describing.
    In reference to my favorite book, which taught me many life lessons, "People are stupid. A person will believe Anything, either because they're afraid it's true, or because they want it to be true". Which means, you open the possibility in their minds that you could possibly want to do very naughty things with them, and even if it's not the case and despite all attempts to convince them otherwise, they may be afraid of that possibility. That fear will turn your desires (the ones in their minds, not your real desires) into truth in their minds.
    I think I'm rambling at this point, I'll stop before it becomes a novel... Sorry.
     
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    its a pretty dumb stereotype, and in most cases not true at all.
    I think that's just an assumption people develop because they might see people who are gay as confused (in other words, they don't understand why people are gay, and why they cant just be straight) therefore willing to have sex with anyone and everyone. Also people aren't used to people who are attracted to the same sex, eg. a straight male finds out a friend or someone he knows is gay and all of a sudden he distances himself from him because he doesn't want to be hit on, checked out, or he thinks the person whos gay might look at his junk, the same goes for a woman, she finds out a friend or someone she knows is lesbian and gets uncomfortable around her because she thinks shes being checked out or going to get hit on because apparently gay people don't have types and just go for the first person they see. I'm not saying that's the reason but its just my opinion
     
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    This is actually not true. There is a difference in the sex drives of gay and straight men. Gay men have on average higher sex drive than straight guys and even straight guys with very high sex drive are willing to have sex with other guys situationally if no women are available. (Other linked variable is that gay guys on average have bigger sex organs than straight guys.)

    Having said that it's just an average. No person is exactly alike. OP, tell your friends that just how they are not attracted to every female they see you are not attracted to every guy you see.
     
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    I have a different opinion. I think that men, in general, have been taught they have to be the leaders in a relationship, and, with the appearance of porn this has been amplified. Porn addiction, or simple watch leads to masturbation which, to some extent, increases the sex drive.

    Now, it wasn't until the last decades when women started exploring themselves sexually, but the society still likes to promote the idea that women are basically asexual and the only reason they have sex is to please men. Not being encouraged to be so active sexually, led to some kind of libido inhibition. Or at least as contrasted to men's.

    There are obviously, dozens of other reasons women are more wary when it comes to entrusting their intimacy to another man, some of which quite justified.

    In gay relationships, a lot of boundaries fall, and men find themselves with little to no restrains as far as sex is concerned. No, this does not make them sexual freaks, is just a result of their upbringing, stereotypes and so on.

    Edit: is it bad? As long as it doesn't affect their health, it shouldn't be, but a higher sex drive doesn't necessarily equal with "more fun" or "more pleasure". Sex drive is neither good nor bad, it just is.
     
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