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Is he gay...? Mixed signals for days...

Discussion in 'General Support and Advice' started by wilvirginia97, Apr 28, 2016.

  1. wilvirginia97

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    Alright everyone, this is going to be a long post, so I apologize in advance. I could still really use some advice though.

    For starters, I'm 19 and a college freshman double majoring in German and Psychology. There's this guy, and for anonymity's sake, let's call him C. C is also 19 and a theatre major.

    I knew C in high school, sort of. I did theatre throughout middle school and high school, and in high school, I was super involved with it. My state, Virginia, would have an annual International Thespian Society State Conference in January. I met C my freshman year, briefly. I'd have a brief conversation or two with him throughout each conference over the four years, but we never talked or stayed in touch outside of that.

    I always thought he was cute and wondered if he was gay, but I never put in any effort into finding out. I apply to colleges, get my decisions, and then decide on my current school.

    About midway through the first semester, I see C on campus. I freak out to my friend and tell her I had somewhat of a huge crush on him at conferences lol. I decide to approach him, and I introduce myself again. He vaguely remembered me which was understandable, we both met a lot of people at these things. We don't really hang out much for the remainder of first semester, but we realize we do have some mutual acquaintances.

    This semester, out of now where, we become decent friends and start hanging out a lot, mostly in the second half of the semester. Fair warning, I'm somewhat of a stoner and so is he, but we still get our academics take care of before we kick back. Anyway, we've been hanging out more. At first it was smoke, come back and play some video games, then part ways. Then we starting hanging out with a mutual friend group a lot. It would vary from smoking with the group to chilling alone, smoking with the group, chilling alone, and then going back to the group, or just smoking and then chilling with the group.

    When I became friends with C here at college, I assumed he was straight. It seemed like it. I only have two gay friends on campus, so most of my guy friends are straight. When he's around them he'll comment on girls' asses and boobs just like any other thirsty college guy does, so I felt even more confident in assuming he's straight. I'd her him talk about past girlfriends and sexual experiences a handful of times.

    Here's where things get complicated...

    A few weeks back, not too sure how long ago to be completely honest, a couple of things happened.

    Some background information: I've never had a normal relationship where it's being friends, flirting, talking, and then dating. Most of my previous relationships have been sexually driven, but I'm tired of that and ready for something substantial, so that's why all of this stuff, including the cute little things like this, are new to me.

    We were hanging out, same old same old, and it was a Thursday night. We had smoked with our friends and were hanging out in a dorm room with a few others just listening to music and chit-chatting. He and I were on a bed, and our friend was sitting up towards her pillows. C and I were sitting further down the bed. I was like sitting upright and on the edge sort of in the middle, and he was leaning back and parallel with the bed behind me. At one point, I got kind of lazy/tired, so I leaned back on him and had my head on his chest. He didn't say a word about it, so I assumed it was alright. We sat like that for a while.

    Later on in the night, we went out with our friends to smoke again, and we came back for some more of the same kind of hanging out. This time he and I had basically switched places when it came to seating. He did the same thing I did, and leaned back and put his head on my chest. We sat like that for a while like before, and eventually we all parted ways and went to sleep.

    The next night, Friday, we had the same kind of plans, smoking and kicking it. We were in another friend's dorm room, this time with a much smaller group. We were sitting on the bed, side by side with our legs stretched out in front of us, hanging off of the bed, and our friend was a bit further up on the bed too. The person who the room belongs to likes keeping it extra cold, so C and I were sharing a blanket between the two of us. we were covered from like shoulders down. It was a huge blanket so it was sort of piled onto us too.

    At one point, I feel his foot bump into mine. At first I think, "It was just an accident," but then it happens again. I say, "Coincidence," but it happens a third time. I decide to dare lightly tap back, and then he returns it again. At one point our lower legs kind of cross over each other and we keep it going lol. That was the first time I played footsies, FYI. We did that for a while and then eventually everyone was tired and went to bed.

    Finally, Saturday comes around. Everyone had gotten their work done during the week so we could have a fun weekend, so we were drinking and smoking, typical college weekend activities. The wind down hanging out sessions rolls around, and yet again we find ourselves in a friends dorm room. We're all watching a movie, still decently intoxicated. Everyone is focused on the movie. We're sort of leaning into each other since we're sitting side by side. At one point C changes his seating position and my hand gets trapped under his thigh. We were sitting next to each other on the bed, and he realized it was happening because he was about to move it, but then he decided to leave it. Since I've never been in this predicament before, I wasn't sure if I was supposed to move my hand to the side on top or just pull it out from under or what, so I did nothing.

    Eventually, he repositioned himself and his hand ended up right next to mine, since both of us had our arms at our sides. I wasn't sure whether I was supposed to make a move or not, so once again, I didn't. Finally, he repositions himself a third time, criss-cross next to me. I'm sitting the same way. At one point, he kind of just puts his head on my shoulder subtly and out of the blue. It caught me off guard, but after a few brief moments I rested my head on top of his and we sat like that for a few minutes.

    Something funny happened in the movie, and we were all laughing really hard so we were moving of course, and when we all finished laughing he didn't go back to the same position. I assume it may have been because people had become aware of the others in the room again and less focused on the movie. If we hadn't moved, I'm sure we would've sat like that for a while.

    We hung out Sunday and the following days after that, every time with a group, and he seems distant. Nothing cute happens. There's been a few instances where subtle things like that happen again, but not many.

    Yesterday afternoon we hung out with some friends and went for a long drive on a gorgeous day. Eventually our friends needed to be back, so I dropped them off, since I was driving, but C and I continued to explore. Eventually we parked my car, and I told him I still wasn't ready to be bored in the dorm again. He agreed, so I asked if he wanted to see this cool little bridge that I love going to. We make the 15-20 minute hike there and we sit on the edge for a while just talking. He convinces me to quit smoking so we both share my luckies, and then we sit and talk some more. It starts getting late and I have to get back for a meeting. We were planning on riding the shuttle from the parking lot back to campus, but he decided we should walk since it was nice. I couldn't have been happier.

    At this point, I've obviously asked friends for advice. I'm not entirely sure what to do. His mixed signals are killing me, especially since this is my first time I am really in this kind of situation. I've gotten two main thoughts, either leave it be and just see what happens over time or sit him down and be honest with him. I obviously have feelings and find him attractive both physically and personality wise. I'm not the greatest looking guy, but that's whatever.

    Both of those options freak me out, because I hate waiting, I'm super impatient and the semester is over in a week basically, and the other option of talking to him scares me because regardless of what happens I want him to be in my life, at least as a friend if not more.

    We have great chemistry, be it platonic or romantic, and I feel so happy and safe to be around him, which is rare. Since I have a history with depression, sorry for the curve ball. Anyway...what do I do...?
     
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    Sounds pretty gay to me.
     
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    hmm not sure. i dont see any spesific things a gay guy would do or something like that lol. I would just hang out in private more and maybe give him some signals. judging on his reaction then, you'd know if he's into you or not.
     
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    I agree with both of the previous comments. Try to be alone with him more often. I feel that things may become more obvious if you do that.
     
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    For what its worth, this story sounds very similar to how I was with my very first crush and how things started with us. For me, these were very obvious signs that I was gay, and the movie touching, lingering, making excuses to move closer, etc, was how I showed my affection to him.

    He reciprocated 90% of the time, but was either straight or very closeted and so nothing ever really developed past some hand holding and cuddling, so these signs are no sure thing. But that said, I think he's at least curious since he appears to be the one initiating. Maybe try lingering a bit longer or once ur touching maybe move ur hand/fingers around a bit to see how he reacts? More alone time in these same situations (movies) might help.
     
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    Got a kind of similar situation and it is driving me nuts. Was in my local pub one night. Very drunk to the point I was asking random people if they were gay lol. My best mate pointed out this guy who was floating around beside us and reckoned he was interested. Made a bit of an ass of myself for a bit asking him then this other guy gives me a look and starts talking to me. Ask him and he said he was straight. Asked him about the other guy and he says he didn't know. Later found out they were friends. Didn't give too much thought after that although in hindsight kind of seemed like the other guy felt left out when I was asking other folks. Anyways roll on a couple of weeks and I bump into them again. Apologise to his mate for last time. He doesn't even remember lol. I wasn't even really interested in him just extremely drunk. Other guy being really friendly again. Happened to ask him if he's gay again and he tells me he's bi this time but looking for girls tonight. Bump into him in the toilet. Standing staring into each other's eyes and chatting. He's literally pawing at me and me him. Kind of makes me think of like at school punching each other on the arm to let each other know you're interested. Was so tempted to kiss him there and then but didn't wanna scare him off or make him feel uncomfortable as folks were walking in and out so eventually he walks out. Talk to him again briefly after this and he says he's not gay. He was heading off at this point with his friends so I gave him my business card and said give me a call. No call received. Roll on another few weeks. I turn up at the pub and go to the toilet. Guess who's there lol. Some foreign guy giving him hassle for supposedly deliberately flicking a cigarette butt at him. The guy I know says it was an accident and apologises. Foreign guy keeps on at him so I tell him to leave him alone. Wee guy thanks me n hugs me. I tell him I done it cos I like him. More hugs n staring into each other's eyes. One of his friend of a friend's walks in. Doesn't see anything really but sure he suspected something was going on. I go back out and go to the bar and he goes over to his best mate then comes over to same bit of the bar as me with his mate. Says to his mate that this is the guy that gave me his card. Walks away with his pal after talking to me for a minute or two. Next thing another guy from the foreign group grabs him and starts shaking him about so I jump over and pull the guy back from him then when others got him too I jump to pull the guy I like back as he was a bit angry by this point. Calm him down and tell him to stay right there while I get the bouncers. They come in and drag the other guy out and have a word with the guy I like to find out what happened. I go out for a smoke and the wee guy is singing my praises to his pals and shouts me over then invites me to go to the club they're off to with them. Sit down in the club and he sits right beside me up against me. I give him a look and he starts laughing and says he's not gay then leans in and hugs me and kisses me on the neck. I say I know you're not gay, you're bisexual. He says he's bisexual but... then this girl drags him away. Didn't wanna cause him any hassle so let it go till later. See him on the dance floor when am going out for a smoke and say to him to come out for one but he thinks I'm leaving and says I'm staying here tonight but here's my number, call me and I'll meet you next weekend. Texted him towards the end of the week but kept it innocent. Says he'd be out on Saturday but doesn't. Didn't reply when I texted on Saturday. Ends up texting me back during the week again but not much since. Heard from his mates they were all out Saturday there but none of them appeared so I sent a pretty forward text on Saturday night but no reply. Don't know what to make of it. Is he gay, bi, straight, shy? Does seem shy when stuff seemed like it was about to happen and when I ask him about gay/bi stuff. Don't want to scare him off but I am someone who generally says what I'm thinking. I've always made sure not to say anything about stuff while his mates are within earshot though as wouldn't want to be the one to out him. Pretty sure he hasn't told them he's even bi. Advice? Thoughts?

    ---------- Post added 17th May 2016 at 10:34 AM ----------

    Apologies for the length of that by the way. Hope you's can stay awake to read it lol