"Conversion Therapy"

I just saw this the other day . you might enjoy it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDipt48sVyo


beyond that reminds me of But I'm a Cheerleader. I highly recommend you watch it

take care!!! <3

 

Oh boy... if they're making you do this kind of stuff, keep an eye on them. There are very questionable organizations that cater to this branch of insanity and the results are often horrifying. People will send their children out to be abused because they can't stand to put in the effort to understand.

It's comical and all how far they are from reality but... "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities."

I would say from this excerpt alone they are already unworthy of your trust.

 

I think I told you about Exodus International in a previous thread Guff, so it would be good to keep in mind what came of them. Nearly 40 years of attempting to repair people's homosexuality with a final admission of failure and an apology for what they had done. Don't forget that!

 

Hey Guff,

If your Dad is trying to understand and is being supportive that is great! Hopefully, your Mom will actually check out PFLAG. If she does so seriously, it could help with her acceptance.

Since you found the materials in the Conversion Therapy book to be so ridiculously inaccurate, maybe you can just consider that you read a funny chapter and watched a funny video today with the (hopefully) positive net result that your Mom will be checking out PFLAG.

Stay strong, my friend!

 

These books are stupid because they believe anything can make you gay. Dad gave you too much attention? Gay, because you long for a male figure. Dad didn't give you enough attention? Gay, because you long for the male figure you lacked. It's....ridiculous.

 

" maybe you can just consider that you read a funny chapter and watched a funny video today "


yeah guff.... consider it a lesson in a bizarre and freakish episode of history ;P

like when they said they built an "unsinkable" ship aka the Titanic.... and it sank on its first trip out of the harbor.....


Take care

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or THIS episode in history

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There's_a_sucker_born_every_minute

 

Come on, Guff! You KNOW why. Because it's wrong and it doesn't work. It CAN'T work.

It really sounds like depression is leading you to try to rationalize this irrational thing. That is not the way to happiness.

The way to happiness is to be yourself, get your depression under control, and get out of there as soon as you can so that you can live your own life.

When do you get to see your therapist next?

 

See, Guff, he can help you understand what you are going through and offer coping mechanisms. You only started your treatment and counseling for your depression recently so give it a chance.

 

Guff, don't even try conversion therapy, please. I've seen the aftermath of what it does to people. It doesn't work but it does some serious damage, the kind that leaves lifelong scars.

My BFF went through conversion therapy, at his parents insistence. I'm not going to get into the details of the aftermath but, it is not something I would wish on my worst enemy. I'm just thankful my friend survived and, is mostly okay now. And yes still gay.

 

I know it seems really funny at first, but don't get any further than the ridiculous reasons and stupid stuff. The stuff that goes on in conversion therapy is awful. There's a reason suicide rates are so high.

But yeah, there's some stupid reasons people create for why you're gay. My grandmother claimed that my mother turned me gay by letting me wear too much black. :lol:

 

Therapy's not a good option. They give you drugs and shock you to make you feel ill/pain when dealing with or viewing anything "not straight." It doesn't "cure the gay" it fucks up your mind and body and kills a part of you on the inside.

This is just going off from what I've heard from some sources, not sure if all "conversion" therapy is like this, but it's bad news regardless.

 

Guff, my self sought experience was with a Pastor who devised his own system based on the AA twelve set program. To gain a foot hold against you depression you have to be yourself! Later found out the Pastor was gay! lol!

 

"I'm really starting to wonder why I'm fighting the therapy. I mean, to say it hasn't worked for anyone else doesn't necessarily mean it absolutely can't work for me. But it'll never work if I don't try.."

Guff you are fighting it because you know it is harmful to you. Good work!! Keep defending yourself, do what you have to do


"Trying would take so much effort.. Not trying would take just as much effort to defend myself about it. Either way takes so much effort and I don't got anything left in me to give"


Break time!!!

Get some sleep, eat some good food, spend some time in nature, do something relaxing, do something fun, get some support - keep yourself in good shape , well taken care of!!


Its really good you have awareness of when you are running out of steam and hitting empty. Use that, to support yourself and defend yourself



Can you do stuff like start making lists of things you can do to feel better?

for relaxation, or fun? anyting?

bake cookies? shoot hoops? a video game? favorite books? comics? supportive youtube videos? watch birds? walk barefoot? yoga? favorite healthy foods? What do you find helpful?

sometimes zoning out and watching TV for a bit, or a good movie can help give your mind a much needed rest.

And make sure you get enough sleep and rest


Take care Guff!!!!!

 

It's all terrible exercises in repression and can't help in the end. I got put through a bit of it without my prior knowledge when I got my first psychiatrist after attempting to commit suicide at 12. Psychiatrist's decision alone, my parents themselves had been super lgbt friendly since way before i was born. All it did was make me try to commit suicide a lot harder and with frequency. At least you only got a book and your mind is hopefully less impressionable than a 12 year old's.

I mean I don't know if you have to then make an entire commentary in the book. It's silliness and it sounds like they want "serious" effort put in but if it's not a thing that works maybe the only serious effort thing is to deconstruct it a bit.

 

Dafuq? Like clockwork orange?