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My introduction, and why I'm considering coming out at 42

Discussion in 'LGBT Later in Life' started by DayHiker, May 3, 2014.

  1. DayHiker

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    I'm not one of those people who knew from a very young age that they were gay. Looking back now, the earliest I can remember having feelings that I now understand to be attraction to other guys was 13 or 14, but I didn't recognize it at the time. I knew only that I wasn't particularly attracted to girls, as many of my friends seemed to be. Looking at the women in Playboy and Penthouse in friends' basements (this was before internet porn!) did nothing for me.

    The earliest I recognized feelings of attraction towards other men at the time I had them was probably 19 or 20. Even then, I was in denial for some years, then went through a few years of trying to tell myself I was bi (watching Spice Girls videos and trying to tell myself that Sporty Spice wasn't too bad) before I was finally able to admit to myself, some time in my late 20s, that I was gay. I can't cite an exact date, or even an exact year — "glacial" would be a good word to describe the pace at which I came to the realization, it was so gradual, but I was eventually able to say "I'm gay" to myself, in private. So for convenience' sake, let's say I've been out to myself for 15 years, give or take.

    In all that time, and since then, I've still never done anything sexual or romantic with another guy. Part of that is internalized homophobia, I'm sure, but another part is that I'm something of an introvert and a loner anyway. I prefer living alone and the independence it offers. I don't have to consult with anyone else to decide to stay in or go out, to come straight home from work or to go out to dinner and a movie. I've traveled alone, quite a bit, and enjoy it — the time it offers me to myself, and the fact that I don't have to take anyone else's preferences into account when deciding where to go and what to do.

    I know it's tempting to read that as something I'm telling myself to convince myself I'm OK with being alone, but I feel strongly in my case it's the real truth. It's difficult for me to imagine myself giving up that freedom and independence for a relationship, near impossible to imagine living with a partner. I'm not categorically ruling out the possibility that I'd feel differently if I were out, but it doesn't seem likely to me.

    And that's why I haven't come out yet: if I'm not dating or hooking up with anyone anyway, and am not particularly looking to do either, what difference does it make if I come out? If I'm asexual in practice, what difference does it make if people think I'm attracted to women, or men, or both, or neither?

    So why am I thinking about coming out now?

    The idea of coming out has been in the back of my mind for the last four or five years (remember: "glacial"). I promised myself a few years ago if anyone asked me flat out if I was gay, I would answer honestly, but no one has (except for a stranger once in a bar in New Orleans, when I was there on one of my solo travels, and I did answer honestly, but that's a story for another time). But two events in the past six months have pushed me more towards coming out:

    1) About six months ago, a bunch of college buddies and I got together for something of an unofficial 20-year reunion. I had thought I might come out then, but I also didn't feel that I had to. Another buddy of ours has, since college, come out — he was also invited to the weekend but wasn't able to attend. As discussion at the bar turns to him — with some bemusement, but certainly nothing homophobic from anyone — it occurs to me that if I wanted to come out, this would be the easiest time in the world to work it into the conversation: "As long as we're on the subject, I'm gay too." But I didn't. And I was disappointed in myself for that, but that wasn't my worst offense of the weekend.

    Later on that weekend we went out to the local strip club. And I went along, and let the strippers rub their breasts in my face, and pretended to enjoy it. It's not the first time I've done that, but it had been many years since the last time I had been in a strip club and put on that act. And afterwards I was disgusted (with myself for pretending to enjoy it, that is; not disgusted by the strippers, only bored by them), and I realized that while I hadn't broken the letter of my promise to myself not to flat-out lie about being gay, it certainly violated the spirit, the act being as much of a lie as if I said I wasn't gay.

    2) It's not quite true that I've never come out — long story short, I did once, about three years ago, to a small group of friends (but not close friends), when very drunk. Probably part of me was hoping it would get out to more people, but they apparently recognized I wouldn't have come out if I had been sober, and AFAIK they've kept it to themselves.

    Except a few months ago a very close friend (VCF) of mine, who knows some of the people I came out to, said something to me that could be interpreted to mean he'd be supportive if I wanted to come out to him, but was sufficiently vague that it could have been interpreted as just a general statement of friendship. So now I think VCF knows, but being a good friend, he's not going to directly confront me about it, and let me stay closeted if I want.

    And what gnaws at me about that is the thought that if I don't come out to him, he'll be hurt and feel that I don't trust him. Which I do — I'd trust him with my life, and I know he's gay-friendly in general, so why is it so hard to come out to him?

    Why am I still apprehensive about coming out? (This is where I could use advice, reassurance, etc.)

    I'm not worried about them reacting badly, at least in the homophobic sense — the vast majority of my friends are gay-supportive. In someone else's coming out story here on EC, the response was "why didn't you come out sooner?" And I know that was meant as supportive, but the thought of that question bugs me, because I don't have a good answer for it. Because I'm a coward? That's what I keep coming back to, and I hope it's not true, and if it is I certainly don't like to admit it. Because I didn't trust them? If I didn't, it's not because they ever gave me a reason not to trust them.

    And I'm worried that people will be supportive and I'll get emotional and teary, which I don't like to do because I'm very guarded with my feelings. I'd rather get the jokey sort of "laugh it off to let you know nothing has changed" response, but there's no way of knowing in advance how people will respond.

    And I'm worried that I'll end up replacing one lie with another; part of why I've been closeted so long is that I'm generally assumed to be straight, and when people make that assumption I haven't corrected it, and in some cases actively encouraged it (see the strip club above). That's a pattern I'd like to get out of, but I can see other assumptions coming in to play if I come out — the assumption that I've been having lots of (or in fact any) sex with men, or the assumption that the reason I haven't been dating is only that I've been closeted, and not that I'm a deep introvert who prefers to be alone most of the time. And if people made those assumptions, I could see myself all too easily letting those assumptions slide, or even encouraging them, just as I did when people assumed I was straight.

    Wow, that was long. Thanks to anyone who took the time to read all of it, and I appreciate any responses or thoughts, but I think it's also helped me just to write that all out.
     
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    Hello,

    I don't think you are a coward but maybe you are realizing that the time is right for you to come out now. A lot of people know they are gay and leave it years before they feel they are ready to do anything about it.

    I knew I was gay for over a decade before I felt comfortable enough to be open with everyone. it was the same for me being happy being alone, having that freedom that my married friends with children didn't have. But i got to a point where I was loosing who i really was, i didn't know myself, I had spent so many years hiding who I was it took a long time to get that back again. For me it wasn't a question of lying but again I wasn't having a relationship so i just didn't tell anyone about myself.

    But it is all very well saying I have the freedom to travel, no one tells me what to do, but you are alone in an empty house with no one to talk to. no one to go out to dinner with, or to go on holiday with. Then you end up getting lonely and feel like you want to find someone to share your life with. Maybe this is why you have waited until you are 42 because until now you have been busy getting on with your life and now you want to be with someone.

    Thank you are writing your story and i look forward to hearing more from you.

    Molly x
     
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    You are not too late. There is no "right" time and it is never "too late". But sitting on it too long and for no real reason could risk you doing more harm than good. In fact - what good can it be doing? You are not really helping yourself - or those close to you. Keeping friends at a distance. Living a solitary life.

    Existing as a loner can be fine for people. But humans are social beings and isolation and lack of intimacy/ closeness with others can be corrosive. I mean, you could risk sliding in to depression over a period of time without even knowing it.

    Then there is the the root cause of all this… it probably lies in the internalised homophobia you already recognise. Probably constructed in childhood so early... it is how you have been structured all this time. It might be fun to start to de-construct that 'operating system' you were given so that you can come out in to the sun!

    I wondered if you have ever considered therapy? I don't think you mentioned if you ever have. It might help you explore and understand yourself better and help you find a way forward from here that makes sense. Maybe warm up the glacier a bit!!

    Last thought ... you say people assume you are straight. I wouldn't put money on that !!!
     
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    Hey DayHiker, welcome to EC!

    I was in your fair city for a conference just a few days ago!

    Where you're from does give us a clue as to possible internalized homophobia, but, as you said, most of your friends are gay-supportive and I recognize that Indianapolis is not like the rest of the state.

    As for being alone...well I can tell you that I also enjoy my solitude, but we are social creatures, no escaping that. Making compromises for others can be a real pain, unless there is a compensatory companionship with someone who recognizes my need for that occasional apartness. The relationship itself then becomes a kind of third-party entity that itself requires nurturing.

    You may be mis-conceiving what a relationship is all about. It should not be about suffocation or meeting all the needs of the other. Too many people depend on their one romantic relationship to meet all of their social needs; like dumping all your stuff on your partner's shoulders as if he were a camel...no wonder camels spit. Relationships cannot survive without the context of a community, whether it be friends or family or religion. In a very real sense, being part of a community is a kind of safety valve for the relationship.

    A true partnership will indeed involve an element of two solitudes. Standing side-by-side still implies a certain space between the partners, that space should be honoured by both.
     
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    Hey DayHiker,

    it is amazing but I recognize a lot of myself in your post and I believe having a very good understanding of where you are coming from and what you are going through, i.e. living as asexual, being extremely introvert to a point at which being a self-sufficiency loner becomes the ultimate virtue, rather guarded with my feelings or aloof, and never came out to anyone (except a couple of gay people). I often wonder if this is a product of my own internalized homophobia of which I like to pretend that it is absent (on a rational level it is, on an emotional level not quite) or whether I am a schizoid.

    So unfortunately, I don’t have that much advice to offer. Just letting you know that you’re not alone with your dilemma and welcome to EC.

    Cheers and hugs,
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    I can't totally relate to what you're going though, as we came out to ourselves at fairly similar ages but I only lasted about three months in the closet after that, but I can relate to it being difficult to come out in general for the first time (or the first time sober) even if you know the person you are telling will be 100% cool with it. And I can definitely relate to being afraid of the question "what took so bloody long?" As I still don't think I have a totally satisfying answer for that question.

    For what it's worth, I don't think there is any shame in telling people you don't really know why it took so long to come out. And I don't think there is any shame in admitting a certain element of fear; we are faced with so many stories of folk who aren't accepted when they come out that I think it's hard to not have nagging fear of rejection, even if we know it's misplaced.

    I think part of the coming out process is taking some agency in constructing your own narrative, so it's up to you how much you tell people about why you haven't come out and why you haven't dated, and likewise it's totally fine to let that story evolve if your feelings change about that in the future. No reason to have it all figured out right off the bat.
     
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    Thanks for sharing your story, DayHiker.

    I can relate with many things you mentioned. Alone vs. lonely is a delicate balance, especially for us fellow introverts — there are days when I'm perfectly happy to be alone (I can do what I want, when I want, etc.), but there are other days when the loneliness is quite painful.

    Internalized phobias and societal pressures hold us back from being our true selves. Being gay and being introverted are not always celebrated in our society; yet, why must we apologize or feel bad about who we are? I think maybe you and I are having a mid-life metamorphosis and kinda want to tell the world once and for all: "I'm gay, I'm introverted, and there is nothing wrong with either of those. I don't care what you or others think — I just want to lead an authentic and fulfilling life." Or something like that...

    Anyway, cheers — and good to meet you! :slight_smile:
     
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    Thanks to everyone for your comments. They're all very helpful to read, and good to know that I'm not alone.

    After reading the comments here, as well as re-reading my own words and asking myself what I'd think if I were reading someone else's words, I think you've hit the mark here — I think maybe I have a lot more internalized homophobia than I previously recognized. I wanted to think I couldn't have that much if I a) was able to admit to myself that I'm gay, and b) tried to be supportive of openly gay friends. But I'm realizing that that's not true. I'd like to think I'm OK with being gay, and intellectually I am, but deep down, emotionally, it's becoming clear that I'm not there yet.

    I hadn't really before, but I am now. I think I need to work on overcoming my internalized homophobia, possibly in therapy. Whether I'll still feel that I'm not interested in dating as that goes on, I don't know, but even if I'm not I'm beginning to see that's not a reason to address the root issue.
     
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    I haven't had any sort of therapy after coming out to myself/ending the Years of Denial last year. (Although I'm considering it.) But...I will say that the time I have spent on EC, and the process of thinking about myself, has had huge value even if I spend the rest of my life alone. This "journey" can be one that can offer huge growth potential. So do consider therapy, or at least spending time with EC.

    Your views on dating might change, too. I know as of about this time last year, I concluded "no dating any time soon, if ever." But...as I continue on my journey, I can now at least see the possibility of dating.
     
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    Dayhiker,

    I too struggle with the question of staying alone or or exploring relationships. I absolutely agree with you on the benefits of being alone and I think I tolerate loneliness better than most people, but I just can't stop thinking about romance and relationships. For most of my life I've avoided dating because I find women tedious while men are more interesting but forbidden fruit. My plan is to find a man that appeals to me and try dating him. If it works I'll have finally scratched this romantic itch and if it doesn't I'll be more confident that being alone is right for me.