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Discussion in 'LGBT Later in Life' started by Eric Dave, Jul 31, 2014.

  1. Eric Dave

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    Is it unusual when finding out you're gay in mid 20's (or probably gay anyway) that your past contains:

    Only fantsising and masturbating about the opposite sex as a teen, never men
    Only looking at pictures of girls to masturbate about, never men
    Only dreaming of meeting a nice girl to fall in love with and look forward to that happening, never men
    Enjoyed and looked forward to fantasising about having sex with your female teachers
    Never get turned on by a shirtless guy or naked guy in teens and 20's
    Get turned on seeing a girl strip
    Wish that the hot girl sitting near you would say hi to you and fancy you, never a guy
    think being gay was weird
    Thought being gay was a lifestyle choice that basically anyone was capable of it
    Fancy girls you saw and long to touch them in a sexual way
    If you saw two guys kissing you'd cringe and look away
    you never had a same sex experience and only fooled around with girls
    Straight porn or solo girl porn was very very arousing
    Never fancied a guy (at least conciously)




    Well thats my past and im convinced Im gay now. Would that be unusual or simply par for the course when becoming gay later in life?

    It seems for me anyway that I suddenly became someone else.
     
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    If I've learned anything from EC is that there are some commonalities, but there are just as many unique traits, so one person's experience isn't necessarily someone else's.

    However, here's mine:

    Only fantsising and masturbating about the opposite sex as a teen, never men
    -never. I was never turned on by girls.

    Only looking at pictures of girls to masturbate about, never men
    -never. Even when looking at porn it was such a muddy experience unless there was a guy in the pic/video and then bazinga!

    Only dreaming of meeting a nice girl to fall in love with and look forward to that happening, never men
    -never. I did what was expected but never dreamed or hoped for it. I also never, ever considered having a real and lasting relationship with a guy. That was nowhere on my radar.

    Enjoyed and looked forward to fantasising about having sex with your female teachers
    -I loved some of my female teachers but never sexually. Now, Coach Monaco on the other hand...yowza.

    Never get turned on by a shirtless guy or naked guy in teens and 20's
    -ALWAYS did, much to my grief, self-loathing, embarrassment, assumed dysfunction, etc. In fact he didn't need to be shirtless. An eye twinkle or dimple was plenty.

    Get turned on seeing a girl strip
    -Not even once. In fact Halle Berry, many years later, helped solidify for me that I was gay. It occurred simultaneously to me that she was stunningly gorgeous and I couldn't have cared less. Didn't want to touch her at all. Daniel Craig on the other hand was, ahem, noteworthy!

    Wish that the hot girl sitting near you would say hi to you and fancy you, never a guy
    think being gay was weird.
    -Nope again. In fact I remember a particular event in P.E. once when this amazing guy was next to me and all I wanted was for him to say hi. He didn't.

    Thought being gay was a lifestyle choice that basically anyone was capable of it
    -I believed deep down that being gay was a perverted attraction, one that needed to be expunged immediately. There was nothing normal about it. Only sad, mentally deranged souls would choose such a thing. Guess I'm mentally deranged then.

    Fancy girls you saw and long to touch them in a sexual way
    -never

    If you saw two guys kissing you'd cringe and look away
    -I'd look away out of shock, but would have butterflies of excitement in my tummy, which of course, made me hate myself even more.

    you never had a same sex experience and only fooled around with girls
    -Briefly had a boyfriend at 19, but believed every moment that what I was doing was wrong. I just didn't care any more. "To Hell then..." I thought. I did have a few girl friends (and then a wife!) but it never sat well with me.

    Straight porn or solo girl porn was very very arousing
    -Only if a guy was in it. Girls were confusing to me.

    Never fancied a guy (at least conciously)
    -Fancied them all the time. Bo Duke (Dukes of Hazzard) was a real problem for me. I LOVED him at the ripe old age of 11. He's still yummy. The fact that I was more interested in Bo than Daisy caused me endless torment.

    I think the point here is that we all grow up with different perspectives and experiences and they do not diminish who or what we are at all.
     
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    Yeah it just confuses me that Im probably gay now yet growing up had different attractions and arousals. Dunno I probably never wanted to think of guys in that way (most straight guys dont) in cas eI could turn gay but it wasn't as if I was repressing anything. It was more a case of if a weird thought ever popped into my head (it wasnt frequent) I just decided to not dwell on it. I cant rememebr tbh but guys never stood out to me as being cute etc.. Many times a girl would take fancy to a friend of mine and I'd be thinking ''Really?? You think he's hot??''

    Anyway that's my experience. I didnt feel anything for guys until one day age 25 I decided to try masturbating about a guy to see if my Erectile dysfuncton was caused by being not attracted to women. I started to get more aroused than I had in ages but still not 100% hard.
     
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    Well I didn't find out till my mid 40s so I guess mid 20s would not seem strange to me but then we are from different times.

    SGG
     
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    Did you feel the same as I did in regards to the list above?
     
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    Mostly yes, but I didn't have much contact with girls until I was in early 20s and to be honest I didn't really see what all the fuss was about sex with them, I mean it was enjoyable but I got the impression that other guys got more out of it than me. I had no accidental access to gay porn than because the internet didn't exist then.

    SGG
     
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    A sex therapist told me that gays have an absence of sexual feeling towards females that is consistent throughout their life. If that is true are any on here really bi instead of gay?

    @Sale
    Did you fantasise about guys in your teens/20's?
     
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    I certainly grew up assuming I was straight. I found straight porn to be exciting (when I could get it - it was the 1980s) and it accomplished what it's supposed to do. I DID enjoy "straight porn" more than "lesbian porn", and I told myself at the time it was because the straight porn was "what I'd be doing" once I found a woman. But even thirty or so years down the road, I can picture what a LOT of the guys looked like in those videos, and I'm having trouble remembering any of the women. :slight_smile:

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    What about my life experiences? Is that unusual or normal growing up for a gay person? Im not talking about assuming being straight but having gay fantaises and not realising you're gay. I'm talking actually liking girls sexually, looking forward tot he day you'll get your hands on boobs/ass, looking forward to meeting a gorgeous girls to fall in love with etc..

    Not just living a straight life.
     
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    No I never recall fantasising about guys in my 20s even though I knew many gay guys because I was involved with the theatre and with musicians. But 2 of my best friends later turned out to be gay but not whilst I knew them. I married my wife in my late 20s but didn’t have many girlfriends before that.
     
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    Hmm I dont get your story tbh. You had attractions to women, fantasised about women but at some stage looked at gay porn and got aroused? Does that not make you bi sexual?
     
  12. Hey Eric,
    If I have learned anything about sexuality is that anything is possible. I read one of your threads where you said you have no desire at all to sleep with men or date them. Why not just go on with other aspects of your life and see where it takes you?

    If you meet a great guy you want to have a relationship with; that's great. If your feelings come back for women then that's great too.

    Maybe you are bisexual/fluid? When I was a teen I was attracted to both boys and girls; but at different times and I still am. I would literally lose attraction for one sex and while I was attracted to the other. I used to think I was going through phases, but it turns out that it's a cycle for me and I have no control over it. I don't know if you can relate to that?
     
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    Eric, I don’t expect you to understand my story, I don’t.

    I don’t consider myself now, or at any other time, to be bisexual since NOW I’m not at all sexually interested in women even though I’m still married to one, I love my wife of 26 years for all the other aspects of our relationship. Before I was married I couldn’t get enough sex with my future wife even though I didn’t derive as much pleasure from it as others seemed to do from their girlfriends. Back in the 80s I had no exposure to gay porn and no desire to go looking for it, it wasn’t even obviously on sale in the newsagents where I bought my dirty mags.

    Later in my now sexless marriage I stumbled across gay porn, it was like a light went on, I became aroused by it and everything started to make sense. This is why I was not that unhappy about my sexless marriage and why in my 20s sex with girls was fun but not extatic.

    Hope this helps

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    You enjoyed discovering your new attractions?


    Also say it was the opposite and you had been married to a guy fo years, with homosexual history etc.. and suddenly discovered straight porn I bet people on here would just say you are gay and liking new material on which to get off.

    Not for me to say anyway but I always assumed gays either knew from early on or ignored obvious signs.

    It just seems to me with this forum that if a straight guy suddenly develops a taste for gay porn late on he's gay according to people here where as if it was the opposite way around and a gay guy said he suddenly finds lesbian porn arouseing he would still be told he's gay with maybe some attraction for the opposite sex.

    Intersting.
     
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    I'm Bi, and can say yes to just about all of your original statements. I didn't come out, and accept myself as bi until my mid 40's. I always felt strong physical and emotional attraction to women, and still do. But my emotional attraction to men I always played off as being "a guy crush" thing, and the physical attraction was something I just denied, and repressed and pretended didn't exist until just the past few years, after almost 20 years of marriage and 2 kids.

    I'm still coming to term with what "Bi" means myself, so I don't offer any advice, other than to do what you are doing and learn about the different experiences of others. It's amazing how much they vary from person to person.

    Finally, don't let anyone tell you who or what you "are". You are you. Ultimately that is all that matters.
     
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    I got a little aroused reading another story of a guy on here when he got with a guy at the swimming pool. Does that mean I'm gay or do straight people get aroused by an erotic story of any nature gay or straight?

    See I used to read erotic stories in the newspaper between straight couples and would get horny.
     
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    I grew up thinking I was straight. There is no norm when it comes to how your sexuality develops.
     
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    What age were you when you questioned and why did you think you were straight? Maybe you could answer my points one by one?

    Did you masturbate about men before you thought you were gay?
     
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    It sounds to me like unless you realize you like guys now, you might just be heterosexual. Tell us how you feel about guys, and then it will be easier to place you. You are probably bisexual or straight from the sounds of it though. Personally I only had one same sex crush before puberty, but after puberty I realized I liked guys as well.
     
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    I developed E.D. (erectile duysfunction) at age 19. I couldn't get properly hard while masturbating about girls like I had done before. I had always gotten 100% hard 100% of the time when thinking of girls and masturbation was exciting thinking of them. After the E.D. set in the excitement was still there but the erections were softer and i couldnt maintain an erection without constant stimulation with my hand. Gradually from age 19-25 the excitement dropped, the orgasms became dull and the erections weaker.

    I saw various doctors about my E.D. during this time. I stopped hooking up with girls and they became a threat to me as I had numerous failed sx attempts with them.

    So one day I tried masturbating about a girl as usual and couldnt get aroused. So I thought ''maybe Im gay and thats the cause of the E.D.''. I masturbated about a guy to see and found my arousals got stronger and the erections stronger and the excitement went up. I freaked out. I didnt get a proper hard erection but it rejuventated it from 50-60% up to 80% and the orgasm felt more intense. I immediately freaked out and panicked thinking I was gay. I phoned my parents and told them what happened.

    Since then I have kept masturbating about guys to see if things get better with my erections. I havent got a proper erction yet after 7 yrs of questioning and checking but I do get groinal responses t guys. I dont pop boners but I get arousal sensations like tingling, tightening in my groin when I see certain guys. These actually scare me. I have tried to accept being gay. I tell mey parents I am and go out to check out guys in an attempt to embrac eit yet when I see a guy that gives me a groinal reaction my heart sinks like ''oh no!'' and I feel scred looking at good looking guys.

    Anyway I used to believe I was straight up to age 25 but maybe the E.D. was caused by low libido for girls. Then again why hasn't it come back peoperly for guys when I masturbate about them?

    I am convinced Im gay but dont want to be.

    I am masturbating numerous times a day checking my arousals when thinking of men/looking at gay porn.

    When my anxiety is high I can masturbate up to 4-7 times a day checking gay porn.
     
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