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What the heck is flirting, exactly?

Discussion in 'LGBT Later in Life' started by Really, Oct 26, 2015.

  1. Really

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    In another thread an example of flirting was recounted which consisted of a bit of conversation with some sexual innuendo.

    Now, I know that eye contact plus smiling and/or small touches are flirtatious but does the banter or compliment necessarily include a sexual innuendo component?

    I don't have a problem striking up a friendly, meaningless bit of conversation but I'm not sure about the rest. I have tried the eye contact thing with a stranger, which she reciprocated but it was so intense I couldn't manage a smile as well.

    And now, if the chit chat needs to have this added aspect, I'm pretty sure I won't be able to juggle all these parts. And I'd like to keep it mature, seeing as I'm not the teenager I feel like.

    And, on the flip side, is my easy chatting with strangers always going to come off as flirting? Obviously, I don't want the men I talk to to think I'm flirting because that is not my intent. I just want a bit more friendliness in the world. Waah. Where's the handbook?
     
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    From what I'm told, it's what I naturally do with any halfway attractive man I come across....

    My point is, you might not want to overthink it.
     
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    Yeah don't overthink it!

    I'm told I flirt with everyone (which people told me BEFORE I realized I was bi, really all the signs were there lol), but I never feel like I'm flirting.

    I feel like there is all kinds of flirting---if you make a comment on something about their appearance or about their good qualities particularly, that's generally flirting. Sexual innuendo as well.

    Just making conversation with INTENT is flirting with deniability. Hee.
     
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    Lol! Flirting with deniability. I like that.
     
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    Part of it is also being able to recognize it. I recently had a woman I didn't know say something to me which could be taken as flirting but equally as her just joking around. May have been slightly sexual or not. I guess unless I'm prepared to respond in kind, I'll never find out.
     
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    I sure don't know exactly what flirting is. I used to think I was "flirting impaired". :slight_smile: I could see my friends doing it but I just didn't seem to have it in me. I wondered if there was some formal way for me learn. Then maybe 6 months ago, not terribly long after coming out to myself I found myself flirting for the first time in my life...with a woman. It just kind of happened. And honestly I was kind of thrilled to learn that I wasn't broken--it actually was buried down in there somewhere. Six months or so later it hasn't happened again. I feel like it's one of those things I can't really *make* happen. It just flows out when it can. That seems to be the case for me anyway. I also happen to be a person who easily chats with strangers, but I feel pretty sure that's not flirting. Im not sure why I'm sure, but that one time I felt myself flirting, inside I was like HEY I'M FLIRTING! Which never happens when I'm chatting up strangers. Good luck getting it all figured out!
     
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    @yeehaw,

    That's what I'm hoping. But... You didn't say whether your flirtee flirted back. :slight_smile:
     
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    Since I'm so oblivious to the behavior of others, I'll never even notice unless they make it incredibly obvious and also state they aren't joking. :lol:

    I doubt anybody can explain it in a way I'm able to wrap my tiny little brain around either.
    I honestly have better luck talking to my pet turtle than trying to be social.
     
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    Some countries/regions are known to have people who are flirtatious, North America isn't one of them; as a matter of fact, we are extremely bad at it, to the point that we often don't recognize when someone is flirting with us!

    Flirting is a kind of language with rules and a kind of grammar. It goes beyond words, but words are important. Body language is just as important, but look at context, frequency of contact, "accidental" encounters...all of these are part of the language of seduction. It requires a certain amount of learning and a certain amount of creativity.

    Here is a beautiful example of a successful seduction: This guy spotted a girl he really, really liked, he decided there and then that he will marry her one day. He set up an elaborate scheme that was to last for over 6 months. He arranged to "accidentally" run into her on several occasions, he would always know exactly where to go for coffee, or he would always have something interesting to say or do "just out of the blue". There would be flowers (a language all to itself!), there would deep conversations, and finally, there would be love.

    After their marriage, he confessed that it was all contrived...she was delighted and charmed!

    You can all learn these things folks, it isn't that difficult, but it does require a little effort and persistence.
     
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    Totally this.

    I too have been told that I flirt with (virtually) everybody, and I frequently don't see it...although I've gotten onto myself a bit more in the past few years. And yeah, everything from eye contact and smiles up through sexual innuendo or suggestive remarks (particularly, subtle double entendre, which I often find myself making without thinking about it).

    Deniability is the greater part of flirting!
     
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    I just like people! Hee.
     
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    LOL, I really don't. But there are people I do like...and I tend to gravitate toward them. Flirting, consciously or unconsciously, tends to facilitate that.
     
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    Sorry, I have nothing to add to this conversation since I am way inexperienced, but


    loool!! I have stumbled upon a few of your comments and I would think that this is very true. Your remarks always crack me up! (still remember that petri dish post!) :slight_smile:
     
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    Thanks! I don't remember the Petri dish post but consider it my gift to you. :slight_smile:
    And for the rest of you? Bubkis.
     
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    I had a blast re-reading this! The whole topic was HILARIOUS!!

    So, I m going to shut up now and let you continue back ontopic.

    Regards :slight_smile:
     
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    OMG. How did I miss that thread when it first came out?? I went to check it out, and couldn't stop until I'd read all 7 pages! (At least I was able to get the whole story at once without having to wait for each new installment!)
     
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    I'm so terrible at flirting. The best i can do is nervous eye contact.

    If you figure it out Really, let me know :slight_smile:!

    Yesterday I passed up an opportunity to flirt with this very cute woman, she kind of turned on the charm and flashed me a flirty smile and I panicked. I was kicking myself after, like omg she was so cute!
     
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    I'm thinking now it might be an advantage not knowing when someone's flirting. At least for a start because if she's all friendly and smiley, not knowing anything else so I can't develop any nerves, I can be smiley and friendly in return. Haha. My glass is half full.
     
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    True that. I feel like though I maybevrn be over-reading,so every time I think oh she's flirting with me, it's just wishful thinking, lol.