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Better late than never!

Discussion in 'LGBT Later in Life' started by I'mStillStanding, Apr 18, 2016.

  1. I'mStillStanding

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    It's been a while since I've posted on EC. Lots of crazy drama, but I guess that's what happens when you come out to your family in your late 20's. For months I've felt like I was two people. One being the public me, married guy focusing on his family a 100%. Then there was the gay me. That drove me crazy! But since coming out, I have been able to put the fake me away.

    With honesty comes a whole new list of problems. My wife and I have separated, which has been bitter sweet. I miss her, and often find myself picking up my phone to tell her something funny. Unfortunately, things are not the best between us. She's having a hard time accepting this, so our communication is kind of shit. Either I'm getting hateful messages or I still love you/want you messages. Since that's the case, I've been trying to limit contact. I'm hoping we can file for divorce and settle things amicably, but not sure if she will let go without a fight.

    Then there's my parents and siblings. While out for coffee with my mom and one of my younger sisters, they informed me I'm acting gayer?!?! My sister was nice about it, but mom was not. I've been thinking, and other then the obvious (talking about guys openly) I don't feel I'm acting any differently. It bothers me that they implied I was trying to be something I'm not just to prove I'm gay. I got to thinking about it, maybe they are just more sensitive to these things now that I'm open about being gay. I'll mention that the next time it comes up. One of my younger brothers hade been fantastic. Since coming out to him, he has really been here for me. I've hung out with him and his fiance more in the last two weeks then all of last year. I'm able to joke, laugh, just really not have to worry which has been great.

    So now I have to figure out how to be a one income household. Lose more weight so I feel more comfortable with dating again. Speaking of dating, I am so ready to get out there and meet people. Doesn't have to be romantic just need to start making friends in the lgbt community. So, I'm ready to be me and don't feel guilty about it. I've spent 6 months worrying about everyone else, now it's time to focus on my. Well let the games begin :wink:
     
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    Good for you. I can empathise with the message from your wife. She's angry, like my ex is, probably doesn't understand but still cares for you. It sometimes feels like an impossible situation but you are proof that people get through this. It ain't easy but is doable.
     
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    It's good to hear your heads in the right place bud. Your sis and mom will get used to the real you. They need to realize that you have been holding back the real you for so long and are now comfortable with you self enough to be yourself in public/around them. It's a great probably a very freeing feeling for you. I know talking with my wife has been very freeing. I don't have a weight on my shoulders anymore that I drug around for so long.
     
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    Hey glad your doing good. Friend making sounds fun.
     
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    Justasking100 - you're right. It's just sad to me that this is what it has come to. I'm not responding anymore to anything argumentative. That's all I know to do, and hopefully things will calm down really soon.

    Baz - free is the word lol. Even in the middle of arguments, I remember that for the first time ever I'm actually being me. And I'm happy about who I am, that has really helped me stay focused on the outcome I'm hoping for.

    Bunny - making friends would be fantastic. Unfortunately there really isn't a lgbt group in my area. The only one I can think of is at a college nearly an hour away. If push comes to shove I'll bite the bullet and go there, I just need some interaction with "my people" lol.

    So yesterday was interesting. Had a couple of agreements. I just don't get why people would think I'd choose to hurt them like this for kicks. My future ex is one of them. I'm happy that I'm being honest, and proud to be gay. But hurting her is the worst part, how she could think I'd come out without being sure I'll never understand.

    Mom sat me down last night and said "I believed you were straight and your saying that was not true, how can I believe this? I'm just having a hard time believing this." I laughed, out load. I told her first off, no she didn't believe I was straight. If she did she wouldn't have asked me so many times growing up, and offered to give her as much details as she needed to help her believe I'm a flamer. Her response was yea I questioned till you got married. And no I don't need details, I'll figure out this with what I have now. I mean really, if she wants details I'll give them to her. Some of them I've been dying to share anyway, questions about them you know. Although she's not the best choice, she is very anti-masterbation lol. No really very against it, feel bad for her honestly.

    Today is a new day, and I'm still pressing forward. It's crazy that a couple months ago I was crying in the bathroom, struggling with this alone. Time seemed to pass so slowly. But guys looking back, it's like a blink. I was scared, didn't like myself, and extremely depressed. I thought I'd lost my whole life, everything. But I was mourning a lie, the person who I lost wasn't real. Looking back I realize I was living like a shadow. People thought I was happy, funny, fun loving. And I am all these things, it's just before I was honest I was completely empty. I thought I was whole, but I wasn't. This process has been hell, and it's not over yet. But I could not imagine spending another day hiding in the closet, life is short and we get one chance. I swear, I'll make the most of mind :slight_smile:
     
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    hey good for you. You sound like you are headed through the storm. Your wife will eventually accept it, I hope. Try and treat yourselves both with compassion as you have been doing and that will lead to the best outcome.
     
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    I think I know what they mean by this and they are probably right but it's not a bad thing. Every guy I ever saw coming out becomes 'gayer' for a while before settling in to the new open life. Let's face it, if gay was a drink it would probably be champagne, and we all know what happens when you finally pop the cork on it after a good shake up.

    Whether intentional or not, life in the closet means acting 'manly' and repressing small details that might give away any clues to your sexuality secret. It's not always rational and sometimes even means covering up things that even the most butch straight guy could get away with without question. What your family and friends will be noticing is not really you becoming more gay, it's more that they are noticing you not doing the straight act anymore and the butch cover ups that they have gotten used to as a part of your personality. Examples could be things like accepting a compliment more positively or allowing yourself to speak more passionately about something you're interested in.

    Being out is like joining an exclusive club and you get to do and try a lot of things that other people still don't feel able to. You can go out to clubs on school nights, you can drink fancy cocktails with plastic mermaids in, you can sing Maria Carey ballads at karaoke, you can wear make up on weekends, you can go to a gay ball in drag, you can go to pride in nothing but your underwear... the list could go on but my point is, if being gay means that you can try so many new ways of making yourself and others happy by enjoying life and not having to take everything so serious for a change, then why should you ever be made to feel that being 'more gay' is a bad thing.
     
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    It seems like even with the bumps in the road, your making great progress and are far down the road on your journey!

    Thanks for posting, it's great to see you come to terms with yourself!
     
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    Hoping she doesn't do this; but what really is there to fight about? Stuff? I'd throw every possession in the trash if I had a chance to be me for once. But at the same time you can't give in with everything over guilt. I was in a business situation that went poorly and I gave up way to much just to make it go away. Resolve that its gone but keep and be strong for what's yours.

    ---------- Post added 20th Apr 2016 at 07:39 AM ----------

    They're just seeing more of the real you now that you've shed your mask.
     
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    I've been split from ex-gf for what will be a year this coming June. I have found myself working 75 hours a week now so that I can provide as a single father. It is truly not envious, but definitely doable. I have a laundry list of things I feel I need to do as well to make myself "dateable". I have found myself spending a lot of money trying to fill this void now that I am alone, and am likely going overboard trying to make things smooth for my daughters. That said, I am definitely glad to be out, and as hard as it all can be, there's no way in hell I would choose the safety of the closet over just feeling free to be myself.
     
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    Baz - thanks for the support man :slight_smile:
    Cap - it for sure has been a storm I'm hoping I'm coming close to the end but time will tell.
    Calf - your response really got me thinking. I've talked to mom and told her I am acting gayer lol because I'm not hiding it. And that I'm sure there is more gayness that will surface as time goes on. Her response to that is it's probably offensive to gay people. She's not thrilled even said I don't need to act like a sissy. I said well calling me a sissy is offensive and the talk continued more to come on that.
    OnTheHighway - I'm just glad I have a place to share this journey. EC is honestly the reason I'm still making it.
    Traveler - yea I don't want any of the stuff just the divorce. She doesn't want the divorce and could hold it up. That makes me nervous. I'm still trying to discover who I am you know but the process is going to be fun :slight_smile:
    Angel - your right. I'm never going back in the closet. That's part of the family's issue. I'm not trying to hide the fact I'm gay. But oh well, I'm me so that's what I'll be. It's crazy how much I feel the need to get in shape you know... I mean the whole idea of dating scares me, but boy am I ready for the chance :slight_smile:

    Guys, the past few days have been crazy. I'm actually in the hospital with my mom. They think she's had a heart attack. Yesterday and the day before I was with my dad's family, my great granny is about to pass. She can't eat at all and refused a feeding tube so it could be any day. Yesterday her son (my grandmother's brother) who was at her house helping had a heart attack. He's stable but has to have open heart surgery. It's risky because he's already had so much done so everyone is a bit nervous. I wonder what it would be like to have a normal day.

    Yesterday I did get the chance to talk, in person, with my gay uncle. It was great! He gave me such great advice on what is ahead. Shared some stories and just was so reassuring. I'm happy I got the chance to talk with him about all this. It felt nice being able to chat about my crushing on the guys from Glee lol.

    My talk with mom, I realized my relationships are never going to be the same. Several people I'm close to will never really accept me and that's sad. But I'm not living for them, so I'll do what makes me happy. I'm going to have to reevaluate how much these people are going to be in my life. I'm sure I'll be on more today since I'll be staying the night at the hospital.

    Side night, mom nurse... He's so cute. She us out of it so I'm flirting hard :wink:
     
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    OMG, you're terrible :lol:

    Seriously though you couldn't dream up all you've been through the last few weeks. Looks like you're focused where you want to be. You'll find out who's along for the long haul in due time. Then you'll know who really cares about you.

    Keep smiling!

    (*hug*)
     
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    Man when it rains it pours I tell you what. I'm sorry for everything going on. I couldn't imagine it and it takes some balls of steel to get through this and you've proved time and time again you have em. Keep your head up and you'll still be standing after this:slight_smile:

    ....see what I did there. Yeah you saw it:wink:
     
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    I'm sorry for your mom but I'm thrilled you have enough chutzpah to flirt with her nurse. It's the small things in life. :slight_smile:
     
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    Hey guys :slight_smile: sorry it's been a while. Mom is OK just mild heart attack. My granny passed so things have been busy. There are three reasons my time here had been cut so drastically: 1) how crazy things still are with the separation, mom being sick, losing gramps and Granny in a month. 2) still worried the soon to be ex is following me, but if you are go scratch. 3) I've been chatting with since local guys I've know but didn't realize they were gay :slight_smile: so I've got tons to catch you up on.

    First issues with the wife. She is constantly calling. and texting and it's just getting to be too much. I've told her I will block her completly if she didn't stop. It may sound harsh but I just can't keep fighting her. She's moved out, even came and took the dog today. Which honestly I'm very sad about. But I'm pushing forward. Of course since outing me to her co workers now family that lives like 1.5 hours away are getting asked lol. Talk about fun :slight_smile:

    Now things with family. So it's been brought to my attention several family members are constantly taking about me to reach other. Even telling down right lies. I've been reminded I'm going to hell by 3, and basically called a whore by 2 (one actually did call me whore). This pissed me off. I've been trying to lay low and give them time to deal out of respect. But they are showing me no respect so I'm out. Started chatting with some guys locally even meet for coffee. Going to church and lunch with guy tomorrow and meeting some more next week. I'm building a new circle of friends and loving it :slight_smile:

    I've got some applications in for a job in nearby college town :slight_smile: hopefully so be moving there by June. Till then commute :slight_smile: I'm not allowing down it backing down :slight_smile: living life proud :wink:

    Tons more details lol so if you want more ask :wink:
     
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    Damn that's a lot of rough. Way to stay focused on your goals! Congratulations on moving forward, your like a role model or something.
     
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    I'mStillStanding,

    I can't believe how motivated you are. I think it's fantastic that you want to get out of Dodge, start a new job and live somewhere new. It sounds like the place you're in now is so toxic. What I love is that you're not running away from something, but hurling toward something.

    It must suck to all of a sudden be exposed to so much homophobia and have such hatred slung at you. Just remember, that those people are the ignorant assholes and the truth is, they don't deserve the time of day from you.

    I'm sorry about all the other pain in your life like your mom's heart attack and your granny passing. I can't imagine being present for those things on top of all the other craziness in your life.

    Your confidence and ability to juggle so much is commendable.

    I think there are a lot of people on EC that never get tired of hearing from you and what you have to say. Me included!

    (*hug*)
     
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    Bunny lol not sure about role model but thanks :slight_smile: y'alls support really is a huge motivator in my journey :slight_smile:

    HereWeGo it really does because some of my family embraces gay people all the time, just not me. But I'm going to keep pushing.

    So I've lined up a roommate :slight_smile: he's straight. I was worried how that would work. So I flat out said, dude you know I'm gay. I'll be wanting to bring guys over, will that be a problem? His response made me laugh lol he said "depends, will have a problem with me bringing chicks back? Obliviously I said no that wouldn't bother me. He said ok, I didn't see why I would feel any different about who you bring home... So I'm very excited about that.

    Well, I think she's agreed to sign the papers. Hopefully that will be done this week. I was hoping to wait till everything was final before I tired anything... I failed! But had a really good time :slight_smile:

    This process has been hell, and I know it's not over. But I'm loving the journey of self discovery :slight_smile: I'll keep you posted :slight_smile:
     
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    Sounds like your roommate is a pretty good guy and things are starting to line up for you. I am so impressed by your ability to get your new life underway.