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Soooooooooo sexually frustrated

Discussion in 'LGBT Later in Life' started by caliwoman, May 16, 2016.

  1. caliwoman

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    34 year old female here, married to a man for over a decade. Never been with a woman. Attracted to three women in my life.

    I finally id'd as bisexual, last week. The only person who knows is my husband and as of tomorrow, my therapist.

    Part of the reason I admitted to being bi, is that I thought the sexual urge/longing/desire would go away, but it hasn't! It's gotten worse, if that's possible.

    Last year, I was in love with a woman and was the last to see it. She was my dentist. When she came out to greet me, she stared at my breasts. Back in her chair, she rubbed her tartar scraper really low on my breast, near the nipple. She did this multiple times. I felt like I was getting molested, but yet, it didn't feel bad. We became friends and during our first dinner together, she stared at my breasts the entire time and then said, "You beat me!"
    I replied, "Huh?"
    "You beat me...you beat me up top," she said and pointed to her breasts. Our friendship was hot and cold, push and pull, and so damn confusing. It's since ended. I wanted her so bad. I wanted to make slow love to her. I never describe sexual intercourse with a man, like that. With a man it's screwing or banging. With her, I wanted to make love.

    I don't think I've ever truly made love to any man in my life.

    The issues are that even admitting I'm bi, is confusing. I'm not attracted to women the same way I am to a man. I can see a man and want him, but not emotionally invest myself. I can't see a woman and want her. I need to get to know her, but once there's that emotional connection or spark of something else, then there is that very deep, intense emotional and physical connection. They're very different. And as far as my desire for a woman, I only have this one woman- who wasn't very good to me- as a sexual desire and attraction.

    It would be much easier to be attracted to women in general, as that would make more sense to me...but that isn't the case.

    On top of that, my husband is not down for this at all. When we fight, he throws it in my face (or as my therapist says, "shames" or "guilts" me) and is very insecure about it. He was insecure before this. I've since asked for more sex, which he doesn't oblige to. He doesn't want to give me more sex because I might leave him anyways, he says. The lack of sex will push me even further away! But it's just an excuse. He has ED problems, intimacy issues, and is very lazy.

    I find myself masturbating to girl-on-girl quite frequently. It takes me a while to choose a video because I like it soft, tender, and passionate. I don't like it when the girls are laughing or screaming and being way too rough.

    I want the feeling of a woman on me. To feel her lips and body pressed against mine...
    the urge is sometimes very overwhelming.

    The most my husband will "allow" is for me to watch girl-on-girl porn, once a month. He stimulates me as I watch, but he doesn't say a word. It's robotic. He says, "I can't be there with you while you watch that, so I emotionally check out." I feel, kind of disgusting for going along with it, because he's just there.

    I'm all over the place here!!! Ugh!!!! I'm so pissed at my husband, who wants me confined to this small box of HIS expectations and confused, as well.
    I want to have sex with a woman to ensure it's something I like, but my husband won't allow it. Yet, I want my first-time to be special, with someone important, but I've only been attracted to three women in my life...so this isn't something that happens to me all too much. I need to be attracted to the person, above all else, when it comes to a woman.

    Finally, I have fears because when it comes to those three women, it's been them who have left me the most heartbroken. I mean, like devastated. Once I have those feelings or feel that spark for a woman, I freak out because I associate that with heartache.

    I don't know what to do. Do I stay in my marriage? Do I cheat on my husband- I mean, he's not addressing my sexual needs whatsoever-? Do I just find a semi-attractive woman or wait for "the one"? If I wait for "the one", it's going to be intense and I fall for them deeply and there is NO WAY I can conceal that from anyone.

    Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!! Fuck me!! This ain't easy!!
     
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    I can very much relate to the spouse who decides to have less sex with you because they suspect you will leave them anyway (though there's likely deeper reasons) when you ask for more sex because you're feeling sexually frustrated. My therapist told me he didn't understand why that was her reaction, since most people afraid that you'll leave them or cheat on them would put out more just to keep you from doing those things. But everybody is different. I feel like hearing about your husband is the first time I've heard somebody else react this way, so it actually makes me feel better.

    That said, my partner and I are pretty much broken up now. I'm getting my own apartment. And it's all for the best.
     
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    I don't know how to put this without harassing you:

    Come to Europe and visit me. From what you describe, we have very similar preferences and wishes for what sex is or should be like. :wink:

    Let's put it this way: My first relationship with a woman, although it turned into a very unhealthy and abusive relationship, put me off the whole idea of casual sex. I had had something better. After I learned to have intense sex—sensual sex—casual encounters very rarely appeals to me anymore. I've had something I enjoy so much more, and yes it's that much more frustrating when you keep finding you want someone and they're so close and yet so fucking far.
     
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    So. Off the wall question here. Do you think your husband could be gay and repressing it? I don't know if you mentioned how old he is. But, I don't know anyone (and guys talk about this all the time) who would possibly think once a month is too often for sex with a wife who is demanding it. There may be some other dynamics such as power plays which could be very unhealthy too. Couples therapy seems in order here.

    Best luck!
     
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    I am with Nick on your husband. I can relate in the sexual frustration dept. and trying to figure out if cheating is the way to see if the glass slipper fits. From my point of view I agree with Nick on couples therapy, don't cheat...you would really regret it down the road. Spend time on you with your therapist. I will say this, if he becomes emotionally abusive, walk..you can live your life with someone playing games
     
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    I would agree with the others if it gets abusive and you've talked with him about your feelings and he's still that way it's time to go. By no means am I saying to rush out of the marriage because this is all so new to him he may just be having a hard time coping with it. I lucked out with my husband and he gave me a free pass so I had the opportunity to explore. That was both good and bad because ultimately i did end up divorced. I feel for you...you're in a tough situation. I definitely wouldn't go the casual sex route. The way you described your attraction to women I think you might be dissapointed in casual experience. You're probably going to need the emotions behind it to have mind blowing sex. I know I did.
     
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    Wow, not only is my marriage falling apart, but the woman who broke my heart just text messaged me.

    I have her blocked on facebook (for the past 6 months) and she just texted me out of the blue, but it wasn't to me, it was to someone else. Ugh. My heart is breaking all over again. She's played games before. I wonder if she's doing it again...so not what I needed this morning.
     
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    Cali,
    Big hugs here. Listen use the board to express your feelings, we are all here for you and can help you through some of this so you are not alone.
     
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    Thank you!! I appreciate it so much. This is so hard.

    With this ex-friend who I wanted to be with sexually and romantically, it was push and pull, hot and cold. Could never tell where I stood with her. Whatever I wanted, she wanted the opposite. The friendship was completely on her terms and she was 100% in control.

    It's been 8 months since I've last spoken to her, nearly 6 months since I've last contacted and blocked her on facebook...and now, THIS. It was a text to what sounded like a business, asking about a cosmetic treatment. I'm so confused. Is she playing games again, like she has before? Our friendship was short-lived because of how intense I wanted it, yet you still have my number stored in your phone.

    I've wanted nothing but to hear from her all of these past months, knowing that she had to remained blocked on FB because she wasn't good for me. Everyone has said that, including the two therapists I've visited. All I've heard is, "She wasn't good to you and isn't good for you." I prayed to God she'd respond to me when she was unblocked, but she never would. After all this time, you text me and it's this?! WTH!!!! I'm so lost and confused. I don't know what to think, but either way, she hasn't changed. At the very least, I mean nothing to her and it was just an accident and at the most, she hasn't changed at all.

    This woman changed my life and brought out feelings in me that I haven't had, to that level.

    I guess it's safe to say, I'm heartbroken this morning.
     
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    I'm so sorry! Sounds like a shitty place to be. I can completely relate to the sexual frustration. I've been taking it out on my husband and reading erotica, but it's not really helping.
     
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    Masturbating to porn doesn't do much for me either. I want to be with a woman very much, but actually being with one in a serious relationship doesn't sound like something I could do.

    I wonder, am I being selfish? Wanting my cake and eating it too?

    Is your husband okay with you being with a woman "on the side"?

     
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    I totally get where you're coming from with regards to people playing games. There's a woman who tried to keep me fed with just enough stupid crumbs to keep me thinking I've got a shot too. So annoying, so heartbreaking, so aggrevating.
     
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    Right now, we are still monogamous. We have been since I was 19 and he realized the extent of my fwb with my bff and a few other girls. I shouldn't have agreed, but it worked for 17 years. I'm trying to figure out how to renegotiate without breaking his heart. I don't want anything to change between us. We've gotten even better since I came out to him. But despite all of that, I still want (maybe need) to touch a women.

    He told me in October that he knows 'it's something I want' (being sexual with a woman). But we both aren't sure how to safeguard our marriage especially with children at home.
     
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    I know this may seem a little weird but have any of you guys still married thought about doing a threesome with their respective husbands? That way the husband can feel involved and you guys could get your girl time. Just a thought.
     
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    Well, I'm the one with the husband, and that might be something I would consider - with someone open or not married. One problem is that I'm not well connected in the community, nor have I been with anyone else, so I'd have no idea how to approach the whole situation.
     
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    i can relate to u on the way u describe ur sexual desire for a woman..i too crave that passionate emotional connection and yes u nailed it when u said "make love"...thats exactly how i feel, and i too have been heartbroken by three (maybe four) but distinctly remember three...it makes me afraid to even try again, sumtimes i feel like i should just supress what i feel and live alone becuz i want love, not a quick fuk...i cant relate to the man thing becuz im les. but i have been with guys and hated every aspect of them...i too am waiting for "the one" still trying to get over my last crush and its already been 4 months i still think about her daily...ugh...sux...so, ur not alone(*hug*)
     
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    Hey Caliwoman. First, that strange text about cosmetic stuff, yup. I'd be confident in your assumption that she's trying to play games. Second, have you thought about separating from your husband? It sounds like, besides your want for women, you're not happy in your marriage, and neither is he.

    I would also question his emotions regarding sex. The ED coupled with him not wanting to pleasure you to girl on girl porn is Interesting. Not that all men are sex animals and get off to anything, but I'd think that you coming out as bi and wanting to watch girl on girl while you do it is every guy's dream. But maybe he's effected on a much deeper level about you wanting to explore your sexuality. I imagine that's extremely hurtful. I agree with everyone everyone who said couples therapy.

    And the way you describe the emotions and physical wants toward men and women is something I can totally relate to. I feel emotionally detached from men, but physically into them. With women, it's not totally immediate. I like to get to know them first, and once I do, I worship the hell out of them. I'm much more into women now-a-days in all capacities though.
     
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    Hey Caliwoman. First, that strange text about cosmetic stuff, yup. I'd be confident in your assumption that she's trying to play games. Second, have you thought about separating from your husband? It sounds like, besides your want for women, you're not happy in your marriage, and neither is he.

    I would also question his emotions regarding sex. The ED coupled with him not wanting to pleasure you to girl on girl porn is Interesting. Not that all men are sex animals and get off to anything, but I'd think that you coming out as bi and wanting to watch girl on girl while you do it is every guy's dream. But maybe he's effected on a much deeper level about you wanting to explore your sexuality. I imagine that's extremely hurtful. I agree with everyone who said couples therapy.

    And the way you describe the emotions and physical wants toward men and women is something I can totally relate to. I feel emotionally detached from men, but physically into them. With women, it's not totally immediate. I like to get to know them first, and once I do, I worship the hell out of them. I'm much more into women now-a-days in all capacities though.
     
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    Out,

    I've asked my husband about this and he said, "No go. Do not collect $200" LOL. Ain't happening :frowning2:



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    YeahpIdk,

    Thank you!! I feel like she's playing games and it's so hurtful to me. I'm glad someone else shared the way in which I feel towards men and women. It's soooo comforting to hear that.



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    Thrashgal,

    My heart goes out to you. I know, all too well, of the confusing heartbreak of a crush. I'm heartbroken as well. The heart wants what the heart wants, right? Ugh, it is so painful.



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    Plaid,

    I'm sorry to hear that!! Some people need their ego stroked. I'll never stick around for crumbs again. Way too painful.

     
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    Difficult night tonight.

    The one woman I was in love with, who I still want, is now blocked on my phone because I'm too afraid of her playing games with me. If she didn't text me again, it would hurt; if she did text me again (pretending her text to me was an accident), it would hurt.

    I want her. I want her so bad that I can taste her.

    During the most difficult nights of longing for her, I'd have to toss and turn until the pangs of desire fled from my body. It was bad. I would have done anything to have her. Oh, how confused I was when it came to this woman. This woman I had it bad for, and still have feelings for. All I've wanted for the past 8 months was any contact from her. Something. And this is what I get. Confusion and chaos. My mind a complete mess.

    Truth be told, I miss her. I miss her every single day. I wish I'd meet another woman so I could finally move on from this woman who tugs at my heart strings. My husband just doesn't compare. For the past 16 months, my heart has belonged to one single person. Her.
    The numerous times I put my pride on the line for her. Wore my heart on my sleeve. Then she pulls whatever that was. She broke my heart again this morning, only this time I'm picking up the pieces quicker.

    Somewhere in those 8 months of wanting to hear from her, I pondered the thought of emailing her a letter, confessing my feelings and love. My "more-than-just-a-friend" feelings. My sexual feelings. Now, I'm so glad I didn't do that. She might have just used that against me, ensuring nothing but future heartache.

    I know I want the touch of a woman. I want a slow, tender love making experience. I don't want anything I've experienced with a man. I want that erotic, sweaty experience that in conjunction with deep emotional feelings, would culminate- in what I could only hope to be- a full body orgasm.

    Yet, here I am...stuck in this- limbo. Not here and definitely, not there. In a hell I could never imagine for myself. The want, the desire, the urge...some days I can barely contain it. My husband has no idea and could never understand how I try and fight it.

    I'm losing a battle that I didn't sign up to fight.
     
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