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Question to married gay men .

Discussion in 'LGBT Later in Life' started by germanion, Jun 15, 2013.

  1. germanion

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    I think I am gay , I was denying that for more than 5 years but the problem that I love a girl and maybe we will engage soon .. so can a gay man build a successful relationship with a woman ? I mean a sexual relationship .
    note : I am 100% sure that I will not even think about coming out or having a secret relationship with a guy because actually I dont like it. I like it only in my mind and I dont have any emotional attraction to men.
     
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    To be blunt. I don't think so...

    But to be clear, I am not sure what your understanding is of being gay.

    It's unclear to me anyway whether you don't like the idea of having a secret relationship with a man, or that you don't like the idea of being with a man altogether, yet in the next sentence you say you like it only in your mind...minus any emotional attraction to men...

    The following quotation was attributed to Mahatma Ghandi:

    Watch your thoughts, they become words.
    Watch your words, they become actions.
    Watch your actions, they become habits.
    Watch your habits, they become your character.
    Watch your character, it becomes your destiny.

    I truly believe that what is in your mind will, eventually, manifest itself in reality, which is why I gave you my original opinion...and I would urge you to seriously think through the implications, not only for yourself, but also your possibly future bride.
     
  3. germanion

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    Thank you very much greatwhale for the reply
    Actually I am suffering nowadays I cant sleep and keep thinking about it ..
    I love that girl and I really want to be with her and have a beautiful life together , also I want to have a family because this is my motive in life .
    regarding your question I am sure that I dont like to be with a man, I am not emotionally attracted to them which is for me the most important part of the relationship , even more important than sex , when I used to fantasize about men (which I haven't done for 5 years) I only think about one night stand not a relationship .
    I didnt have sex before (neither with a man nor a woman) but I have several emotional relationships with girls and one sex trial but it failed because I was really nervous to lose the erection.
    what is concerning me now is that can the sex with a girl satisfy me and her ? can I do it ? I really dont know !
    I appreciate your help because I am really really in my worse days .
    Thanks you
     
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    Read up on internalized homophobia before you do anything that affects another's life intimately.

    Lots of gay guys here love their wives, but in the end it is not enough.

    Love is multifaceted, and extends beyond emotional love. Without all components love alone fails.

    Ask any gay married guy here. For us hindsight is 20/20.
     
  5. germanion

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    Thanks for the reply skiff
    Actually I dont know what is wrong with me , I even dont know my sexual orientation
    My gf she lives in another country and when she send me some of her hot pics I really turned on and want to do sex with her ... but I am not sure if this true or I am lying to myself
    Anyway I have 2 choices :
    1) marry her and continue my life with her .
    2) choose to be alone and kill my self .
    Thanks
     
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    You have a lot more choices than that!

    The guys and girls her can offer many options beyond those two.
     
  7. germanion

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    People I really need help ... I am crying now and chatting with her ... what should I do ? please tell me :frowning2:
     
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    You know those are not your only options, when we really want something we fight for it. I can tell you I am 20 yo and to be honest I never liked the idea of being gay neither the idea of possibly going for a relationship with all these doubts that could damage another person's life, but I've come a long way to accept myself and in this journey I've been discouvering things about me I had never realised before and today these may seem your only options but if you just give it a time, your thoughts will become clear and perhaps you might find life is not narrowed to a couple of options.
    I am not ashamed to say I am still a virgin and I feel my decision of waiting and discouvering myself first was for the better, if not long ago I couldn't stand the idea of being gay, today I can't live any other way.
    Ofc I can't tell you what to do, but an advice from a not so experienced man: give it a time. Time is always the best advisor.
     
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    I love her so much Fellow ... I love her soooo much , I cant stand the idea that she is with another man ... I feel like I want to kill myself now ... life is to be with the girl u love and to have a family .. why is this happening to me ?? :frowning2:(
     
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    We have all, at some point in time asked ourselves exactly the same question....you said she is not in your area, or at least close by.

    Two questions: are you in love with her, or with the idea of being in love with her? What, exactly (and I mean very specific things) makes you think you are gay?
     
  11. germanion

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    I love her Greatwhale ... she is my star ...she is my love .. I love her personality .. I love her figure ... I love her ... I wont let anyone takes her from me ....
    it started when I was a kid I wanted to be a girl .. I am too skinny and I always thought that the girls wont like my body ..
    but when I was 24 I just decided that it is wrong and I should not think about these things ...
    Then at 26 I met this girl .. I love her with all my heart but I am really worried that I wont be able to satisfy her needs .. I dont know what am I ..
    I am sorry guys but I really need help ... my life is between your hands .. I am really thinking about killing myself and let my soul be released!!!
     
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    You nneed time to to settle and think calmly.
     
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    First... Hopefully you are calmer today. You cannot make wise choices unless you are calm and thinking with an open mind.

    Second... You need to find a gay friendly councillor. They will help you understand all the aspects of the issues troubling you.

    Looking at suicide as an option is a sign you have very little understanding of the issues. Most LGBT people are in the same place initially. There are no healthy societal role models for us to learn from. Healthy heterosexual role models are EVERYWHERE 24/7 in the media and day to day real life. The LGBT population works alone with limited information and initially can make bad choices based on limited data and experience.

    In your situation the information is so limited you view killing yourself as an option. This only indicates you need more information. Speaking to a gay friendly councillor will get you the information you desperately need.

    Working this out is not the end of your life, it is the beginning of your life.

    Be calm, settle yourself and start seeking the help you need to figure this out rationally and calmly. Once you have more information and understanding solutions will become obvious.

    Give yourself a break and admit there are things you need to learn about yourself and seek answers. Get information from experts.

    Knowledge is power.
     
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    I don't know if you are gay or not... But if you say you love this girl, then why do you say you think you are gay? Maybe you just like some gay things, but that doesn't necessarily mean you're gay. Try a counselor to help you with your decisions.
     
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    Hi germanion... are you ok? Please give yourself time. The guys here have given prudent advice.
     
  16. germanion

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    Thanks guys for the replies when I read them I feel really more comfortable because this is the first time in my life I speak about these feelings .
    I think I am better today , last night I drank so much and passed out .
    I really don't know my sexual orientation , as I mentioned before when I was a kid I wanted to be a girl and when I was teen I used to fantasize about men and I enjoyed it until I was 24 when I decided not to think about these things anymore and started fantasizing about girls only and actually it worked pretty well ...
    Once I was reading a book "Three Essays on the Theory of Sexuality - Sigmund Freud" and he mentioned that some gay men can't perform well with women ! and from that moment I became really terrified of having sex with girls because maybe I will lose the erection .. but whenever I kiss a girl I get the erection very easily but afraid to continue to the intercourse .Actually I love kissing a girl and I always initiate the kissing part and then I stop , I like to hold her hand and to cuddle but afraid of having sex .
    I really dont understand myself and I am living far away from my home country which makes the things more complicated because I don't have family here to take care of me .
    I think you are right guys I should visit a counselor but the problem that I am living in a very small city I dont know if I can find a gay-friendly counselor , even there is no gay community here , because of that I am posting here maybe you can help me to understand myself and take the right decision to stay with my gf and engage her or leave her .
     
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    Hi,

    You are twenty something, testosterone at peak levels, you can most likely get an erection in an ice cold mountain stream. That passes with age.

    That is when background emotions come out to play in "Erection Park" and trash the place.

    Don't use an erection as indicator of anything.

    I am 100% gay and it took 13 years of marriage to a woman before erection failed. Erection with men is the same as age 18 and has not flagged a bit.

    Choose your indicators wisely.
     
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  18. germanion

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    Yes I think you are right this is not an indicator
    But what indicator should I use to know ? and also I heard stories about gay men married to women and very happy , so what is ur case ?
    I feel that I can be one of those gay men who are married to women and happy .. I can do anything to make this marriage work .. I can take Viagra .. I will fight for it
    Because believe me if I decided to leave her I will lose the motive in life , she is my motive I always study well and work very hard when I think that we will be together soon and happy .
     
  19. germanion

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    I think I will go into the denying stage again :slight_smile:
     
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    It may seem that way now, but shouldn't you be studying and working hard for yourself rather than doing it for someone else? Shape one's life to please another does not look right does it? I say you be honest with yourself and others and truth might come to you.