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**EmptyClosets** · 20th Dec 2011, 12:49 PM

Lesbian couple file lawsuit against Hawaii hotel

Click here to read the news article.

Thoughts?

silverhalo · 20th Dec 2011, 01:22 PM

Hopefully they will win.

person54 · 20th Dec 2011, 02:37 PM

I hope this sort of thing serves as a reminder to close minded people that you might be held accountable if you're treating people unfairly.

hulu735 · 30th Dec 2011, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by silverhalo

Hopefully they will win.

I hope they win too! They should be able to stay there!

midwestgirl89 · 30th Dec 2011, 09:06 PM

I hope they win the case. Discrimination isn't cool.

30th Dec 2011, 09:07 PM

You hope they win? They're obviously going to win against the hotel. Hotels do have a right to refuse guests to stay at their hotel under certain circumstances. However, sexual orientation is not something you can refuse.

Igkitkat · 30th Dec 2011, 09:17 PM

They really should win. If they don't, there's something obviously wrong with the justice system.

kiersten · 30th Dec 2011, 09:45 PM

Considering how US courts have been ruling recently concerning equal rights, I wont be in the least bit surprised to see this lawsuit become successful. Hell, it is flat out obvious they were discriminated against. A business owner, as far as I know, is like an employer, they cant ask you your orientation & then base any decision around the answer. Obviously equality & discrimination laws will vary by state, but even some conservative jurists are ruling in favour of equal rights for LGBT people.

AngelicDemonic · 30th Dec 2011, 10:26 PM

Well if that ain't blatant or anything...

anatta · 31st Dec 2011, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Suracis

You hope they win? They're obviously going to win against the hotel. Hotels do have a right to refuse guests to stay at their hotel under certain circumstances. However, sexual orientation is not something you can refuse.

Unless the sources I'm going by are wrong, it's illegal to discrimate against gay people in only a minority of American states, isn't it? And against transgendered people even fewer?

31st Dec 2011, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by anatta

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Originally Posted by Suracis

You hope they win? They're obviously going to win against the hotel. Hotels do have a right to refuse guests to stay at their hotel under certain circumstances. However, sexual orientation is not something you can refuse.

Unless the sources I'm going by are wrong, it's illegal to discrimate against gay people in only a minority of American states, isn't it? And against transgendered people even fewer?

In this case, I'm talking specifically about the state of Hawaii in which the hotel is located in which it is illegal. So you're not wrong in stating that only a couple of states have a law against this type of discrimination.

grimAuxiliatrix · 31st Dec 2011, 08:57 AM

Let's hope they win.-crosses fingers-

anatta · 31st Dec 2011, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Suracis

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Originally Posted by anatta

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suracis

You hope they win? They're obviously going to win against the hotel. Hotels do have a right to refuse guests to stay at their hotel under certain circumstances. However, sexual orientation is not something you can refuse.

Unless the sources I'm going by are wrong, it's illegal to discrimate against gay people in only a minority of American states, isn't it? And against transgendered people even fewer?

In this case, I'm talking specifically about the state of Hawaii in which the hotel is located in which it is illegal. So you're not wrong in stating that only a couple of states have a law against this type of discrimination.

Oh I see, thanks.

I wonder what the standard is for deciding who is and isn't in a protected class at the federal level. LGBTs have just as long, varied and ongoing a history of persecution as disabled, religious and ethnic groups.

I mean, if I went to the US and were assaulted for being British, which is extremely unlikely, it would be considered a hate crime, because nationality has protected status. Even though to my knowledge British people have next to zero history of being persecuted. But if I were assaulted because someone thought I were a lesbian, which is something that does happen to people, it wouldn't be a hate crime?

Maybe the problem is historical ignorance?

Hexagon · 31st Dec 2011, 09:51 AM

They'd better win.

Random Dent · 31st Dec 2011, 10:32 AM

[sarcasm]

Well, I am anti-fake blonde hair. If I own a business and someone comes in who obviously uses peroxide to "dye" their hair blonde, does that mean I have right to refuse them service? I can throw them out of my store or restaurant? Because, you know, it does make me uncomfortable, and it's against my personal beliefs.

[/sarcasm]

People are fucking ridiculous.

20th Dec 2011, 12:49 PM	#1
EmptyClosets EC's Official Account EC Tech Admin Posts: 61 Join Date: Jan 1970	Lesbian couple file lawsuit against Hawaii hotel Lesbian couple file lawsuit against Hawaii hotel Click here to read the news article. Thoughts?

20th Dec 2011, 01:22 PM	#2
silverhalo EC Addict Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Lesbian Out Status: Quite a few Location: England, Age: 29 Posts: 3,166 Join Date: Dec 2008	Re: Lesbian couple file lawsuit against Hawaii hotel Hopefully they will win.

20th Dec 2011, 02:37 PM	#3
person54 Well Known Full Member Gender: Transgender - MtF Orientation: Pansexual Out Status: Some people Age: 22 Posts: 182 Join Date: Mar 2011	Re: Lesbian couple file lawsuit against Hawaii hotel I hope this sort of thing serves as a reminder to close minded people that you might be held accountable if you're treating people unfairly.

30th Dec 2011, 09:06 PM	#5
midwestgirl89 EC Addict Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Interested in Women Out Status: Some people Age: 23 Posts: 559 Join Date: Jul 2011	Re: Lesbian couple file lawsuit against Hawaii hotel I hope they win the case. Discrimination isn't cool.

30th Dec 2011, 09:07 PM	#6
Suracis Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Lesbian couple file lawsuit against Hawaii hotel You hope they win? They're obviously going to win against the hotel. Hotels do have a right to refuse guests to stay at their hotel under certain circumstances. However, sexual orientation is not something you can refuse.

30th Dec 2011, 09:17 PM	#7
Igkitkat Newbie Regular Member Gender: Female Orientation: Either lesbian or bi, not entirely sure which yet. Out Status: Anyone who asks Location: In a genie lamp Posts: 6 Join Date: Dec 2011	Re: Lesbian couple file lawsuit against Hawaii hotel They really should win. If they don't, there's something obviously wrong with the justice system.

30th Dec 2011, 09:45 PM	#8
kiersten KierstenChromium, Mistress Of Metal Full Member Gender: Transgender - MtF Orientation: Lesbian Out Status: Out to 127 people & my parents & 1 cousin so far Location: Sarnia, ON Posts: 1,331 Join Date: Jun 2011	Re: Lesbian couple file lawsuit against Hawaii hotel Considering how US courts have been ruling recently concerning equal rights, I wont be in the least bit surprised to see this lawsuit become successful. Hell, it is flat out obvious they were discriminated against. A business owner, as far as I know, is like an employer, they cant ask you your orientation & then base any decision around the answer. Obviously equality & discrimination laws will vary by state, but even some conservative jurists are ruling in favour of equal rights for LGBT people. __________________ Penny: What's Sheldon's deal? Leonard: What do you mean "deal"? Penny : You know, like, what's his deal? Is it girls? Guys? Sock puppets? Leonard: Honestly, we've been operating under the assumption that he has no deal.

30th Dec 2011, 10:26 PM	#9
AngelicDemonic Fire? Regular Member Gender: Girlygirl Orientation: Boobs nod Out Status: Ask, I tell. Location: PA Age: 13 Posts: 123 Join Date: Jul 2011	Re: Lesbian couple file lawsuit against Hawaii hotel Well if that ain't blatant or anything... __________________ Toi et moi sommes pareils, tout comme la Terre et le Ciel; une seule famille sous le Soleil.

31st Dec 2011, 08:57 AM	#12
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31st Dec 2011, 09:51 AM	#14
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31st Dec 2011, 10:32 AM	#15
Random Dent Liebe ist für alle da! Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: La la la ladies Out Status: I don't care who knows Location: California Age: 27 Posts: 1,692 Join Date: Feb 2011	Re: Lesbian couple file lawsuit against Hawaii hotel [sarcasm] Well, I am anti-fake blonde hair. If I own a business and someone comes in who obviously uses peroxide to "dye" their hair blonde, does that mean I have right to refuse them service? I can throw them out of my store or restaurant? Because, you know, it does make me uncomfortable, and it's against my personal beliefs. [/sarcasm] People are fucking ridiculous. __________________ No government has the right to tell its citizens when or whom to love. The only queer people are those who don't love anybody Rita Mae Brown

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