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Do I need AA after all?

Discussion in 'Physical & Sexual Health' started by andrew812, Oct 19, 2013.

  1. andrew812

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    I went months without drinking one drop of alcohol. Now I'm at some gay bar slamming down the beers. I tried getting sober on my own, but I can't. Anybody got any advice?
     
  2. DerScott

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    If you feel you have to drink, you probably have a problem with alcohol. Good on you for noticing there may be a problem. I recommend two things: 1) pay your tab and go home. Whether you are In a straight bar or a gay bar, alcohol lowers your inhibitions and you may do things you will later regret. Trust me, I have been in your shoes many times my friend. 2) go online to aa.org and find a meeting. There are all different times and places and communities.

    Good luck!
     
  3. biggayguy

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    If you think you need AA you probably do.
     
  4. andrew812

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    Drinking has ruined my life. It's not fun anymore. It's like I get drunk or high, and watch everything I care about in life burn to the ground.
     
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    We'll if it's not fun anymore then u r probly becoming dependant on it now
     
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    Hi, Andrew.

    Few people have long-term success achieving and maintaining sobriety on their own, because, according to the most recent research, it is not an issue of willpower or desire, but one of biochemistry, specifically the way your dopamine and endorphin systems were formed early in life.

    This doesn't mean that the problem is unsolvable, but the means of solving it require basically a long-term restructuring of those pathways, and that takes time and persistent effort. And that's where AA comes in.

    The means to maintaining sobriety are in making long-term changes to behavioral patterns that eventually change the neural pathways. And to do that requires help and support and encouragement.

    Having someone to be accountable to, being around others who are working on the same things you are, and having constant reminders that the impulses, desires, and motivations are something coming out of the old patterns is the best way we currently having of making change in the long term.

    I would recommend starting with just attending a local AA meeting. It can be hard just to walk in the door the first time, but it is a very supportive and accepting community, and in many areas, there are gay AA meetings as well. The fellowship is set up to welcome and encourage newcomers and you should be able to find someone who will sponsor you and help you maintain your sobriety, and that's a big part of what increases the success of the program.

    Also, remember that much of what drives addictive behavior is not only the neural pathways, but feelings and emotions that underlie the behaviors. In other words, for most people, addictive behaviors, whether alcohol, drugs, eating, porn, masturbation, sex, exercise, or anything else, are ways of numbing. So ultimately, to solve the problems, we must work with the issues that we're numbing.

    It may seem overwhelming at first but it isn't. You take it one step at a time, one day at a time, and you work on it. There are a lot of people here at EC that are overcoming addictions, so you're far from alone.
     
  7. andrew812

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    When I was seeing my doctor for my medication she said I had to go to IOP or rehab. She told me I would end up shooting myself or end up homeless. I begin sober at the tine said to her "f##k you" and never seen her again. Now I am without meds for schitzoaffective dissorder, and for what. It's pride and my urge to drink everything the crosses my path.
     
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    My wife has been clean and sober for 11 years now. She still attends AA.

    If you are worried about your drinking habits, if alcohol has caused you problems, you would benefit from AA. No one will say you are an Alcoholic, but the things they teach will be usefull to you in all aspects of your life. You have nothing to lose, and everything to gain.

    Good luck.
     
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    My husband has been sober for one year this month and AA just wasn't for him. We admitted him into an inpatient rehab facility. I realize not everyone has the means to do this, but I'm personally not a fan of AA proclaiming alcoholism as a "disease" that holds so much power over you.
     
  10. andrew812

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    People know me as a drunk and I accept that. It's what they don't know. It's about the shit that comes with it down the road. It is about getting twacted.
     
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    Only you can change that by whatever means necessary. It's what works for you. I may not be a fan of AA, but I can appreciate the fact that they've helped many people.
     
  12. andrew812

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    Tonight I have gave up and spent $200 on a hotel room, because I could not drive home. Drinking has caused me problems at work and with my family. My mother and father always bring my drinking up. For most people drinking means a good time. For me it's I want to drink every thing here, I don't give a f##k about you. Just don't mess with my buzz. People think that sex drives most people, no me unfortunitaly.
     
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    Again, only you can do something about this, and as someone whose marriage was almost destroyed over something like this as well as someone who watched their mother die because of it, I highly recommend you find a way. *hugs* you can do it.
     
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    I've got advice. But funny enough, there it is ^^ I am only repeating it from your post.

    If you can't get sober on your own, you need outside support. AA's a good place to start.
     
  15. andrew812

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    Thank you brandonisi! It's funny though if you don't fit in the sterotype that people will run like hell from you. Everybody thinks I am hete to kick their ass.
     
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    I feel you. Most people assume I'm straight. When they hear I've been with my husband for 8 years I get some pretty funny reactions.

    Best of luck getting sober. You're still young! You can kick this thing and be able to look back and be so thankful that you did. You'll also be extremely proud to have shown your true willpower. You obviously WANT to get sober. That fact alone puts you two steps ahead.
     
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    Well... 30 years ago we didn't really have solid evidence, but today we know, pretty much without question, that it *is* a disease, a dysfunction of dopamine and endorphin pathways, and really isn't in the control of the addict.

    Alcoholism is a disease that really isn't any different from any other chronic disease such as diabetes, heart disease, or arthritis. Just as with the others, it isn't something you cure, but if effectively treated, on an ongoing basis, it can have minimal impact in your life. But left untreated, it (for most people, anyway) *does* have huge power over one's life for most people, as the untreated condition makes it difficult to make good decisions, because it directly impacts reason and reward centers in the brain.

    A lot of people don't like the religious overtones of many AA groups, but AA itself actually doesn't require or endorse any religious belief; they talk about "God" and then in the next breath say "whomever we perceive him to be." And there are a number of non-religious AA people who replace "God" with "The Truth" or see God as "Great Opportunity Daily."

    Certainly 12 step isn't for everyone, but based on the newest research about causal factors, the social influence of AA appears to do more to rewire the brain chemistry damaged early in life than pretty much any other intervention we have out there. Inpatient rehab can definitely help, but without the followup and social influence provided by AA or something similar, it's hard to achieve permanent rewiring of the brain functions that give rise to the disease.
     
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    I simply don't consider alcoholism a disease. My mother was an alcoholic who passed away four years ago. Alcoholism didn't kill her - liver failure did. To me, a disease is something that infects you in some way, physically. I was diagnosed with cancer last year. I had a tumor removed and was treated with chemotherapy. I'm now cancer-free. THAT was a disease.
     
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    Andrew if you think AA will work for you go for it. A rehab will be best and try talking to some one who's had the same experience as you are with drink.
     
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    It's certainly your choice to call it what you want. I'm just telling you how the medical profession and those who are doing the research view it. It's probably closer to something like chronic depression or schizophrenia or Huntington's disease than it is to cancer, because it is a chronic condition requiring long-term treatment rather than something that can be treated and cured in the short term. Some people are lucky enough to be able to get sober and stay sober with no further difficulties, but many others struggle over very long periods of time.