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Unintentional Lesbian Sex at 7 years old

Discussion in 'Physical & Sexual Health' started by WhyteWind, Mar 10, 2014.

  1. WhyteWind

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    I've been snooping around the internet about child sexuality and it just seems to be such an obscure topic. I reckon not a lot of kids have very actual pre-pubescent sex. Now if i added the lesbian keyword on top of that, I get almost nothing.

    I did ask this question once on Yahoo Answers but didn't get good responses tbh. So I thought I should ask it here. I'm just gonna copy paste my old question.

    "I'm not sure if this is weird but...

    When I was around 2nd/3rd grade, one of my upperclassmen (who was a girl and my neighbor), basically led me onto having sex with her without me really even knowing it. This took place in an urban Chinese elementary school which means students of all grades basically could spend a lot of time together around the neighborhood or in each others' houses.

    I believe my 6th grade friend was reading some hetero porn fanfiction of some anime that aired on tv or whatnot. Somehow she had the genius idea of asking her best friend (me) to enact them in her room. We would roleplay the stories even though we were both girls. She just kind of asked me to strip and do stuff without explaining. I don't think I gave much thought as a little kid and just did it for curiosity and fun. I had no idea what sex was or what even homosexuality was.

    My memories are hazy but we basically touched each other in random places that felt good while half naked or sometimes just naked. I think we both enjoyed it in a weird exciting friendly yet non-romantic way. It kind of went on for almost a year and I started masturbation a little bit early.

    Then I immigrated to the US and we never really contacted each other again. I didn't think much of it. Only the masturbation habit kind of stayed with me. Only later when I looked back did I realize that it was a huge social taboo, especially in China. But realizing, that the West is more sexually expressive, I'm wondering if there are others who share the same experiences as me.

    Right now I am 17 turning 18. And I've come to terms that I am a lesbian whether I like it or not. I really wonder if my childhood experiences had anything to do with it..."

    And let me add that it was consensual so all those child sexual abuse manuals do nothing to explain it. I read that access to pornography (even though I was lead into it casually) and sexual contact before 12 is not healthy. But I wouldn't call it trauma or abuse since I kinda liked it. But if I never had that experience, I feel like I wouldn't have these sexual attractions towards girls like I do now because I kinda know how it felt. Idk it's hard to explain. Does anyone know if this is healthy and if it spurred on my orientation in some way? I feel like I'm some exotic animal here since nobody seems to ever have this problem.
     
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    Its child on child sexual abuse and it is as damaging as any other kind of sexual abuse evn if you liked it.
     
  3. Fallingdown7

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    Sounds like it was childhood experimentation. I don't agree that it was abuse though, unless you were really threatened or coerced. It's actually very common for children to engage in sexual behavior; human beings are sexual at all ages, even as fetuses in the womb.

    I wouldn't worry about it if you actually enjoyed it because It's not too uncommon, really. I started masturbation at age 4 and had sexual curiosities for others too. Little kids love to pleasure themselves, they just don't understand it in the full sexual way that adults do.
     
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    Yay another Marylander!
    I agree with Fallingdown, i've read stories of kids as young as 4 masturbating, But I don't think that experiences have anything to do with orientation, but I may be wrong
     
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    Haha yes. It's pretty rare to see Marylanders on the internet actually...

    Well I didn't know that kids masturbated that early? o-O That's actually normal/healthy? I always felt bad about it lol.

    I guess it's just weird that I've been doing all these sexual things before I even could put a word on them. It's like I grew up on it and now all of a sudden I start doing it to thoughts of girls. And I can't help but think back to those days... and it confuses the hell out of me. I think a part of me still wants to be straight and blame my lesbianism on my friend. .___.

    Maybe I should just forget about it. I'm pretty healthy now... I think. :S
     
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    Sorry, how old was this other girl?
     
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    It is quite normal for kids to do this. My son, even as an infant, loved playing with himself. He would tug so hard on that thing I thought he would pull it right off! I didn't know that babies could get erections, but there were times when I felt bad putting a diaper back on him becuase I thought I would hurt him with that thing standing straight up!

    At three years old I caught him playing with himself on the couch while looking at one of the coffee table books that has prints by the 15th century German artist Albrecht Durer. He had found his Adam and Eve engraving and was sitting there by himself oblivious to everything around him, having a great old time...

    As far as abuse goes, I would be inclined to consider this childhood exploration/experimentation. Although I would have some concern about the age differential between you two. Anytime there is that differential there is a potential for an unequal power dynamic to arise. However, at both grade 2/3 and grade 6, both are still obviously children...
     
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    I've heard of 2 year olds masturbating.

    Basically, as soon as kids are physically capable of masturbating, at least some of them happen upon it and realize it's enjoyable.
     
  9. Rose27

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    There is NO consensual sex at age 7. The federal age of consent in the US is 16-18 depending on the state.
    From Wikipedia:
    In the People's Republic of China the age of consent for sexual activity is fourteen (14) years, regardless of gender and/or sexual orientation.[17]"

    You said she was in the 6th grade. That means she was 12 or 13. That was sexual abuse. Had she been a boy the responses here would be very different. You need to see a LGBT therapist. Please.
     
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    As much as I hate double standards I have to agree with Rose on this. Had it been a boy things would've been different.
     
  11. Fallingdown7

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    If the other person was 12/13, then I do agree with you that that constitutes more as sexual abuse and no one would disagree with that. If they were both the same age, regardless if it was a female or male, then I wouldn't see it as such and more so child experimentation. Obviously this was more so on the coercion side if it was a huge age difference.
     
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    I started masturbating at age 3 or 4.

    But yeah, if she was that much older than you, that's a bit problematic. Seems pretty coercive of her to get you to do that.
     
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    I really appreciate the responses!

    Well you guys are right that she was that much older than me(12/13) but it never seemed too bad because I always hung out with kids in that age group. We had a really close friendship so I don't want her to get in trouble or anything. In fact when I visited her (first time after many years) she seems to be doing great. She's really not the abusive type. She was just curious I bet. We didn't mention this at all at our awkward reunion.

    Would I really need to seek professional help? It happened so long ago and plus I'm not even out to most people especially my family. I'm also too embarrassed to talk about it in person. >_> I'm just a bit insecure about my orientation and my past that's all. ><
     
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    Some of you guys have spent too much time on tumblr or wherever you're getting these weird ideas from. What abuse? WhyteWind clearly said several times that she has no hard feelings, no traumas etc., and in fact liked the experience, yet you keep trying to make her feel abused and actually tell her to see a therapist? Just leave her alone already. Kids do whatever comes to their mind, often without understanding what they are doing, and sometimes understanding it way better than adults, who just parrot ''abuse, abuse, abuse'' as soon as there's a situation not 100% in line with what everyone is supposed to do. Don't create an issue where there is none.

    yes, it's exactly this and nothing more
     
  15. Rose27

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    A LGBT friendly therapist can help you sort all this stuff out. Your friend may not understand what she did was wrong/abusive. It took me decades to find the courage to discuss my abuse experience/being gay in therapy. I let fear,embarrassment and shame control me when I was your age.
    Please think about going to therapy. (*hug*)
     
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    Fact: A 12-13 year old re-enacting sex scenes from a porn magazine with a 7 year old is a sex crime in the United States.
     
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    I think you do need to seek professional help with this. I know you feel that this didn't cause you any harm, however, as an example, there are people who were victims of sexual abuse who lived there lives normally without realising it happened.
     
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    Mm... Yeah this is something that I've never told anybody. On one hand, I agree with nikidion that I've been living quite normally for a long time and worrying about it now seems counterproductive. I'm just kind of frustrated with my attractions right now and the event kinda got brought back in my head.

    @Stubbieholder: well if people can live normally with that "abuse" without knowing it, why do they need to go to therapy? I mean, I feel like my problems are pretty common with other normal closeted people. I'm just curious if that event could turn someone lesbian that's all. >_< Would therapy give me the answers I need?

    @Rose27: Yeah I agree that she probably didn't know what she was doing neither. Maybe she just felt really horny at the time >_> I don't blame her, she was going through puberty after all. I don't think I would mind going to therapy now that so many of you suggested it (it can't hurt), but it's kinda hard to do so in my situation. I can't come out to my parents so I must do this in secret somehow. Do you know any good resources for this type of stuff? Perhaps online resources? Or maybe I should just wait a year or two 'til I'm independent and then go to one alone? I don't see the rush anyways.
     
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    No, I wasn't suggesting that you should go to therapy for your sexual orientation, I was suggesting that you should go to therapy for the sexual abuse. However you want to frame it, this is a damaging situation for child to be in, your dismissive attitude towards child sex abuse to evidence of this and it is quite disturbing.

    I was referring to a situation where someone repressed sexual abuse they received and where traumatised when they remembered.
    Finally, no this is not common for closeted people.....
     
  20. Rose27

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    Just noticed in 1st post you are turning 18. You don't need your parents permission at 18 to make medical appts. or get therapy. Ask your school nurse if there is a low cost or a free clinic you could get therapy. You don't have to explain why.