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A Serious Problem Among 13 to 24 Year-Olds

Discussion in 'Physical & Sexual Health' started by greatwhale, Jul 23, 2014.

  1. greatwhale

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    Greetings!

    I came across this article which every one of us should read.

    Main points:

    1) HIV infection rates for 13- to 24-year olds have increased 132.5% between 2001 and 2011

    2) However, Overall HIV infection rates have gone down by 33%

    3) "...annual diagnosis rates dropped for heterosexual men by about one-quarter, among women by about half, and among intravenous drug users by nearly 70 percent."

    There is clearly a problem here folks, and it isn't only because this generation has not suffered the devastation of former years when AIDS was a death sentence. Heterosexuals, women and IV drug users are also represented by this age group.

    Clearly, the message isn't getting across, and it is very concerning. This headline to an article from the US speaks volumes:

    For First Time Ever, HIV Cases Reported in Every State in U.S. | HIVPlusMag.com

    To our young members, their friends, and their families, I urge you to take care of your health, use condoms, because they work. An HIV diagnosis is no laughing matter, and we are still very far from a cure.
     
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    I would be curious to see how HIV infections correlate, if they do, with available sex education.
     
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    Oh my! I always knew that there was an increased with STDs among adults, but I never knew that it was hitting people as young as 13. This is very sad and disturbing. I think that a large part of it can be attributed to lack of proper sexual education as well as the sex crazed media along with hook-up culture. Maybe, if someone did an extensive documentary on this subject, more people would take attention and get educated.
     
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    There's a fairly strong correlation here with the rise in bareback porn. And that, in turn, correlates with attitudes I've heard from many teen guys about barebacking.

    The gay porn industry was almost 100% safer sex from the late 80s until about 2002 or so. Then, there was one company that started producing bareback... and it sold like wildfire. Even most of the studios who were adamantly, philosophically focused on safer sex eventually gave in and started producing bareback.

    Of course, this is a correlation and we can't prove causation, but it is about the only thing I know of that's correlated with the rise in barebacking and change in attitudes.

    It's really fucked up. Not a month goes by that I don't hear about another person I personally know who is under 30 and recently became HIV+. And every one of those heard the message about the importance of safer sex, whether from me or someone else. But everyone assumes it won't happen to them... until it does.
     
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    Guess that's one of the few things I can be grateful for in not remotely enjoying or wanting to take part in the hook-up culture...
     
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    Oh, what a coincidence. I'm doing a research paper on this and this is the pivotal concern, essentially.
     
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    If there is in fact a causal relationship, though, the relationship could go both ways. Actually I'm inclined to believe the rise in bareback porn is the result of a changing attitude and rise in barebacking, not the cause. Guess there's no way to find out.
     
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    Hi GW

    This is disturbing news indeed.

    My best friend from my school days died from AIDS in the late 80s after catching HIV before the safe sex message was widely published, had I realised I was gay back in the 80s I too perhaps may have died. It is the responsibility of the older generation to keep the safer sex message alive and to emphasize the importance of regular testing. In the UK I don’t recall seeing any adverts on the TV like those terrifying ones from the late 80s, it seems that the closest thing to safer sex messages are fly-on-the-wall documentaries from STD clinics, and perhaps the odd message on MTV.

    Our younger readers will never have known the dark days and are unlikely to have come across anyone who does remember unless they specifically ask. Perhaps the admins could think of wording for a poll that is prominently displayed on EC in a place where younger viewers could see that enabled us older folk to indicate how many people we know of suffering with, or who have died from, HIV/AIDS, perhaps it may help bring the message home. Perhaps the poll initially could be in later in life area and then the results moved to an area for the younger members to see. If it started in the younger section perhaps the older members may not see it and the resulting numbers in the poll may give a wrong impression to the youngsters. It’s just an idea and probably has many downsides but perhaps it’s worth discussing.

    Sale Gay Guy
     
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    This is an interesting point. When I talked to people in their teens and early 20s in the last 90s and early 2000s, everyone was concerned with safer sex (and porn reflected the same concerns), where now, many of that age are not concerned.

    And there's been no meaningful change (as far as I know, at least not a dramatic one in the public eye) in HIV death rates since the mid-1990s.

    So it's possible that people who were mid-teens in the mid-1990s were old enough to remember (as children) some of the early days of the AIDS epidemic where people were dying frequently within a month or two of diagnosis, and teens today have no concept of how serious this disease still is, because they haven't seen people with splotchy faces and rail-thin bodies.

    But I think it's a lot more likely that it is more that the porn influenced behavior, for the simple reason that there's no other factor I can think of (other than distance from the epidemic) that would change the mindset that quickly.
     
  10. It is really sad. One of the problems, I think, is the mixed messages that are sent regarding HIV - like, is it a *gay* disease or not?

    Basically, I think HIV awareness has unfortunately been a bit of a casualty in the rush to *normalise* homosexuality in the last decade or so. Straight people in power, straight politicians, the liberal (and even right wing) media etc avoid discussing HIV amongst gay men because they don't want to sound homophobic. Political correctness (and a legitimate desire to avoid giving red-meat to the homophobes) is trumping compassion.

    The message isn't getting across to young gay guys because we're uncomfortable to shout it loudly enough. HIV IS a *gay disease* and we have to recognise that.
     
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    Well, well, well.
    This is one interesting story... :/
     
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    This generation is in a hook up phase, that's why I think this is happening.Another is lack of sex education
     
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    Here's the scary part that ends the same article (my emphasis in bold):

     
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    This conversation reminds me of a man I met while volunteering at a hospice ten years ago. He was in the end stages of his fight with AIDS, and was down to bones, with marks all over his skin. He was a young man, maybe 40. His family, his friends,everyone had abandoned him. When I came in, he was watching a horror movie, a particularly gory one. I wondered if that was how he felt. I sat and talked with him, washed his forehead, held his hand. He died the next day. This experience, and others, reminded me how the disease not only stripped a person of their vitality, it often isolated people from human touch and caring. I hope things have changed since then.
     
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    The isolation is still there, as is the stigma. A victim's viral load can be undetectable, that person can appear healthy and yet, he or she will likely have an even greater challenge when it comes to forming meaningful relationships.

    This video from Canada is from a year ago, in this report it was estimated that as many as 60% of affected youth don't know they are infected, and yes, the highest rate of new HIV infections is among gay and bisexual young men.

    [YOUTUBE]MX-AbL-sULM[/YOUTUBE]
     
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    Over the past couple of years, I've read more than one article that describe HIV/AIDS as a "manageable chronic condition" and go onto compare it to a condition such as "diabetes." Some younger people may not fear it as a death sentence as it once was. However, we as a society need to still not take such a nonchalant attitude toward HIV/AIDS...
     
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    What worries me is the whole "seeking/gifting" culture/movement...
     
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    Well, I'm terrified.

    People are having sex much more often and casually than is safe or logical, I think.

    I'm looking through my issues of Cosmo, and people are saying they're shocked that someone would hold out even a couple weeks.

    Am I the only one who thinks it's absurd to have sex so early?
     
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    Probably, yes. Having sex more often than is logical? That doesn't make sense.

    'Holding out' is a stupid concept in any case. There is no set time limit on when it is acceptable for two people in a relationship to have sex, and it has no bearing on their likelihood of getting HIV - nor is it any of your business. That is not the issue at hand. The issue at hand is using condoms when having sex - specifically anal sex.
     
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    Um, the above was, in my opinion, a little harsh.

    There are lots of people who choose to wait on sex until they've gotten to know someone. And that could mean one date, or 3 months or longer, depending on the person. There's nothing wrong with that.

    Additionally, there is a bearing on getting one or more STIs: The more people you have sex with, the more you expose yourself (potentially) to whatever STIs each of those people may have. So if you have sex on the first date with dozens of people (or do hookups), vs waiting until you've had three or four dates with someone to have sex... most likely, you're going to have fewer sexual partners, which means a lowered overall risk of STIs.

    The counter argument is that there's nothing wrong with having sex, and that part is true. There's nothing inherently shameful or wrong or immoral about having sex. But it is (or at least, should be) a very intimate act, both physically and emotionally, and so for some people, by waiting and experiencing it with someone s/he really has strong feelings for, in most cases, the sexual experience itself will be much better and more fulfilling.