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Is there any inherent shame to be had when bottoming

Discussion in 'Physical & Sexual Health' started by BaconMonster, Nov 3, 2014.

  1. BaconMonster

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    I used to live with my mom and her husband who are devout christians and would make stupid jokes about homosexuality, specifically how bottoms are the "women in the relationship and have no manhood". It's a stupid assertion i know, but it's one that many ignorant people make. What do you guys think?
     
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    There's no shame in being the receptive partner in intercourse just as there's no shame about being gay. Being the receptive partner also does not mean one has to be inherently feminine, or the "girl" in the relationship (even though that's a weird thing to say because there are two guys in a gay relationship, but that's beside the point). In fact, I'd say that a lot of bottoms out there are way more masculine than some "macho" straight guys.
     
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    I do not attach any shame to being a receptive partner. The idea of shame, when you consider it, is most likely a result of sexism and the hate for the idea of any man doing something remotely mirroring something that a woman might (receptive sex). Certain societies, cultures and concepts place "men" as higher and mighter than women and wish to shame a man that would do anything that contradicts this notion. So essentially, they're stating they hate women.
     
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    Only if there's a shame in being the receptive partner (i.e. to them the female) in penis in vagina sex :/
     
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    I think the problem with this belief has to do with hidden misogyny; like women are considered 'weaker' or below men, so if a man acts out a 'woman's' role he is degrading himself.

    It's important to understand however, that bottoming is not really feminine or even submissive. I've seen a lot of men who are very muscular and burly and they prefer to bottom. There are also some women who have PiV sex and they are dominatrixes; so even if the guy is penetrating them, he is NOT dominant. It's a false belief to say it makes someone weaker to be penetrated.
     
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    I am a virgin, but I believe the partners get to decide what they do in their bedroom, and that anyone who cares about how often a person gets penetrated should calm down. I don't care if you're hetero or homo or what, nobody should be discriminated against for how they like it. Speaking of which, I need to go see the Shakespeare play "As you like it" ... I don't know why I think it's so cute.
     
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    I'm a virgin too, but i definitely want to bottom no matter what. Thats all i can think about sometimes, and i remembered my moms husband saying that ignorant comment, which ticks me off a bit. I just wonder why people say such ignorant stuff sometimes.
     
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    I would like to be the bottom, I don't see any shame in it, it appeals to me more than being top :slight_smile:

    I guess I fit into the feminine gay stereotype, huh :wink:
     
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    No shame whatsoever! Also, some couples like to flip and switch positions. If there was shame, what happens with those couples that like to Flip?

    The entire notion of guy vs girl in a relationship, masculine vs feminine, is complete stereotypical nonsense.
     
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    In actual fact some guys who bottom are quite dominant in that role and know exactly what they like and want. Contrary to the myth, they are not the 'woman' and fit the masculine image far more.

    Sex is about pleasure, not shame. Some prudish people see shame most sexual activity. They're not worth listening to.
     
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    No, receptive anal intercourse is awesome, thank you very much.

    Also, people don't say "ignorant" stuff because they don't know things, as if by merely educating people, we can cure penchants for cruelty. They say "ignorant" stuff because they're evil.

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    I would never forget I once saw a porno where it was a real couple ,and the woman was bottoming and the man was penetrating her . But he was on the bottom penetrating her ,and she was on top cowgirl style and she was a very dominant bottom .
    What I found funny was everyone was calling the guy gay, because he was letting her be dominant moving his body around so she can get better penetration .Even though he was penetrating her . So not all bottoms are weak .
    Also the funny thing is most people thought she was a lesbian because she was dominant bottom ,plus she was not pretty . But other people who regularly watched their videos said they were a heterosexual couple .
    It's not weak to be a bottom , this society is just stupid to think such a thing .
     
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    I think it has to do with a person going outside of their supossed gender roles and taking on a "female role" (which again same-sex relationship). I don't think that bottoms are weaker or less masculine, it's just a way for homophobes to have some excuse to demonize homosexuality.
     
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    No. While it may seem submissive, that's only due to heteronormative values that say "men" (stronger) do the penetrating and "women" (weaker) are being penetrated.
     
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    Shame? Never! Intense pleasure? Always!
     
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    I'm pretty sure the saying "Take it like a man" applies here.:roflmao:
     
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    Hahaha thats too funny!
     
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    If so, then I'm the ultimate man :icon_wink
     
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    Sexist pretty much? Tell your mother to make up her mind.
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    i got this from a TED talk on youtube but it made perfect sense to me. Shame and guilt are linked, Guilt is something that comes from inside and Shame is imposed on us by others. if i offend someone or hurt them in some way i feel guilty because of my own moral compass, shame is when someone else tries to impose their moral compass on me. so i feel guilt if i hurt someone but reject shame for loving someone or how we show love for each other. weither you are giving or receiving you are both giving and receiving. if that makes any sense to you.