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Extreme Fatigue

Discussion in 'Physical & Sexual Health' started by xxAngelOnFirexx, Nov 28, 2007.

  1. xxAngelOnFirexx

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    And i'm not just talking about your normal 'i've stayed up too late' 'haven't got enough sleep' ect. I have. nothing too abnormal. just recently (as of Thanksgiving break) i've been sleeping a lot. and today i couldn't even go to school. I was so tired. i then went back to bed and slept 6hrs and slept at least another hour or two. and now i want to go back to sleep. when i get up i get dizzy. and i zone out and have a hard time making myself do anything. i wonder if i'm sick or what? i get enough sleep so it couldn't be that. any idea?:sleep:
     
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    Hello!!! Morgan - you're likely not eating properly!!!!! I'd bet that's your problem! Your body can get by only so long with out a proper diet. Go eat something!
     
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    And I don't want to sound mean! But we've all been trying to tell you that you need to eat properly to stay healthy... and it seemed to be falling on 'deaf ears'. So try to eat 3 balanced meals a day, some snacks in between, get some exercise, and enough rest.

    Balance - in all aspects of your life - is what you need. Easier said than done, I know!
     
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    well i DO eat. i just throw up most of it.
     
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    That's pretty textbook bulimia. I would say your issue is not fatigue, your issue is bulimia and, from the other post you made relatively recently, anorexia. Even one of those is a pretty devastating thing to deal with. You need to seek help with that, not with the fatigue. The fatigue would just be a by-product of not eating. And if you throw up your food afterwards, that's not "eating." You aren't getting the calories and nutrients you need to stay healthy that way, so it doesn't count.
     
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    yeah i'd have to say with bulimia or depression. That can cause you to feel wierd and tired all the time.
     
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    Seems like some people might know your situation better than I do, but I do hope you are getting some help with this because it is not something that is going to go away, and however much people on here tell you what to do about it, it will continue to fall on deaf ears until you resolve the under lying problem.

    I have a friend who specialises in councilling people with eating disorders and helped me to understand the issues that can cause it. Sexuality issues being quite a common one.

    I may be simplfying this a bit much, but in order to stop me writing an epic let me break it down. You wont sleep or feel well until you eat properly, you wont eat properly until you resolve (and in some cases find out) what is causing you to feel you need to do this to yourself.

    In short, get help, and the sooner the better.

    Taaz x
     
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    The following causes of Fatigue are diseases or medical conditions that affect more than 10 million people in the USA:

    * Acute Bronchitis - generally unwell
    * Alcohol abuse - drowsiness
    * Allergic rhinitis - Fatigue
    * Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease
    * Chronic Sinusitis - tiredness
    * Cytomegalovirus - tiredness
    * Depression - lack of energy
    * Depressive disorders - lack of energy
    * Diabetes - tiredness
    * Diabetes mellitus
    * Diarrhea - Fatigue
    * Dysthymia - lack of energy
    * Flu - fatigue
    * Food poisoning - fatigue
    * Hearing Impairment - fatigue
    * Heart disease
    * High blood pressure
    * Impotence - men may blame "fatigue" for performance failure.
    * Infectious Diarrhea - Malaise
    * Insomnia - daytime tiredness
    * Iron deficiency anemia - tiredness
    * Metabolic Syndrome - fatigue
    * Migraine
    * Obstructive sleep apnea - falling asleep while driving
    * Osteoarthritis - fatigue
    * Premenstrual syndrome - low energy
    * Respiratory conditions - Fatigue
    * Sinusitis - tiredness
    * Sleep apnea - falling asleep while driving
    * Sleep disorders - Tiredness
    * Thyroid disorders - sluggishness
    * Toxoplasmosis - Malaise
    * Traveler's diarrhea - malaise
    * Type 2 diabetes - tiredness

    ▲Top Causes of Fatigue that are common

    The following causes of Fatigue are diseases or conditions that affect more than 1 million people in the USA:

    * Acute rheumatic fever - malaise
    * Adverse reaction - Fatigue
    * Anaemia
    * Anemia - tiredness
    * Atrial Fibrillation - tiredness
    * Autoimmune thyroid diseases - sluggishness
    * Bipolar disorder - lack of energy
    * Cancer
    * Celiac Disease - fatigue
    * Chronic Hepatitis C - Fatigue
    * Congestive Heart Failure - tireness
    * Connective tissue disease
    * Connective tissue diseases
    * Constipation - feeling sluggish
    * Cyclic vomiting syndrome - drowsiness
    * Fibromyalgia - fatigue
    * Gastritis - lethargy
    * Generalized anxiety disorder - fatigue
    * Hashimoto's Thyroiditis - fatigue
    * Heart attack - tiredness
    * Heart failure - tiredness
    * Hemochromatosis - lack of energy
    * Hepatitis B - fatigue
    * Hepatitis C - fatigue
    * Irritable bowel syndrome - tiredness
    * Kidney disease
    * Lupus - extreme fatigue
    * Pelvic Inflammatory Disease - fatigue
    * Pneumonia - tiredness
    * Polymyalgia rheumatica - malaise
    * Pregnancy
    * Rheumatic fever - malaise
    * Rheumatoid arthritis - afternoon malaise
    * Sjogren's Syndrome - fatigue
    * Speech impairment - Fatigue
    * Systemic lupus erythematosus

    As you can see the list can be quite extensive and if your condition persists, you should have a few things checked out, but most often in teens the larger issue with fatigue is depression in one form or another.
     
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    thanks for all the advice! i'll definatly take it into consideration. I do beleive that i have some things i already know about on that list (depression, premenstral syndrome-most likey cause of it!, or as mom thinks i could just be coming down with something-although i did get the flu shot)
     
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    Or it could be... hmmm... Occam's razor and everything... the whole not getting enough nutrition?

    The fact that you're so willing to completely ignore the most likely cause of the problem in favour of other more unlikely causes suggests to me that, indeed, it's a serious mental health issue and by serious, I don't mean "depression," which is almost considered mundane at this point among the general public.

    It's really simple: if you don't eat enough, you don't have enough energy to, ultimately, live. If you don't eat enough (eating as in the food stays in your body and digests, in case you want to play semantics again), you will certainly face fatigue.

    I really strongly advise you to seek help for your relationship to food and eating--in the long run, that kind of help will do you far far more good than coming up with arcane explanations for your fatigue.
     
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    I would agree with Joeyconnick, a little harsh in the way it was said (sorry Joey but even reading it I felt like it was a slap in the face) but basically yes; eat good healthy food, slowly in small enough quantities for it not to be rejected by your gastric system which has been put through the wringer recently and try to work out the underlying psychological problem.

    Have you simply swapped cutting for starvation? Is this just another way of trying to control your body (your life) because you can't get to grips with your emotions/life in gereral?

    We can be here to support you but I don't think anyone here is really qualified to help you find the roots of the problems causing you so much emotional/psychological turmoil.

    Fruit is the easiest thing for the body to digest and is very high in unrefined sugars. Eat a little bit of fruit regularly through out the day, this will help your digestive system to get working again and keep up your blood sugar levels.

    If you have not been eating sufficient quantities and or throwing up most of what you eat your digestive system has probably gone into 'shut down' and if you over load on food, even what most people would consider reasonable quantities, you body will reject it. Help your body to help you.

    I would go for different fruits (whatever you like best so that eating is a pleasure not a chore) raw vegetables. If you are going for cooked foods on the protein front lamb is one of the easiest and least allergenic of all meats, fish is easily digested, porc is very hard on the digestive system. You can get calcium from leafy green vegetables if milk is a problem (milk is very hard on a delicate digestive system) or soya milk if you like that sort of thing. Rice is probably the easiest carbohydrate to digest but needs to be eaten only with vegetables, not with protien as this slows down the digestive system.

    Sorry got a bit off track there. You were talking about fatigue.:eusa_doh: but the two do go hand in hand.
     
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    That's fine if you felt it was harsh--I meant it to be strongly-worded because I and others had already tried to point out, politely, what the most obvious cause of the fatigue likely was. That got nowhere... well actually, no, it went backwards, with people starting to suggest all manner of other causes, while seemingly losing sight of the fact that if someone says (and I quote), "well i DO eat. i just throw up most of it," the problem is obviously not depression or menstrual issues, however much easier it might be to pretend that it is, for all of us or for the person going through the fatigue.

    I would much rather risk someone thinking I had metaphorically slapped someone in the face than play along with what I would describe as an increasingly dangerous denial fantasy. Ignoring the pink elephant in the room will not make it go away.
     
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    I have to agree with Joey on this one. From what Morgan has told us herself it seems like the most obvious reason for her fatigue is her bulimia, and beating around the bush by suggesting anything otherwise and ignoring the main problem would do more harm to her than harsh words. I do think though, Joey, that harsh words can antagonize her, and when people are feeling antagonized they generally do not want to listen to the antagonist.

    Morgan I hope you know that bulimia does not help you lose weight and in fact it wreaks havoc on your body by making it harder to digest food and absorb the critical nutrients you need to be and feel healthy (Not fatigued). It also conditions your body into becoming more reticent to retaining fats; since you are not giving your body the fats it needs, your body recognizes it as a scarce commodity it mutst conserve and stores more of it (ratio-wise)so it doens't go to waste. It will fuck up your metabolism. Not to mention all the stomach acid you are throwing up will rot your teeth. Take the advice that Louise has given and slowly start eating simple digestable foods again so you don't shock your system with a sudden influx.
     
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    Oh I agree with what you said Joey but I just felt that maybe Morgan was too fragile to hear it put like that. I do realise that things seem to be getting worse rather than better but sometimes 'tough love' can make a fragile person retreat even further from the real world.

    You are absolutely right about not looking for excuses elswhere, I think it is clear to everyone this is an emotional/psychological problem but if you want someone to hear you, you have to say the words in a way that is acceptable to that person.

    I fear Morgan will just close off more if 'confronted' with the reality of what is going on in her life instead of being coaxed into accepting what, to her, seem to be unacceptable (thus the denial) things in her life.

    You seem someone who is quite sure of themselves and faces life head on, if you have something to say, you say it, if you have something to do, you do it. Not everyone has that force of character or the psychological stregnth to live their lives like that. This certainly seems to be the case for Morgan otherwise she wouldn't be in the state she is in at the moment.
     
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    eh i dont like harsh things but i don't like being babied or proteced either. i'm tough i've been through a ton of tough shit and made it through. although i am in denial of my eating disorder, the thought of it being that i can't stop if i want to, all the bad things of it, and just having a problem in whole scare and worry me so i shield myself and try to pretend its not happening (see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil)
    i just want to loose weight fast and dramatically beceuase i hate my self and my looks and even though i've lost weight i'm still ugly and bad and i have so many mixed emotions and i'm scared to say anything and make it real yet i'm upset no one in my life has even noticed.
     
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    Weight loss is more of a slow and steady process if you want it to work and last though. Trying to do it "fast and dramatically" will cause more serious problems, as you are seeing. Pretending it's not happening is not going to make it go away. You have received lots of good advice above, please follow it before this gets worse.
     
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    Well I know it's not exactly the same thing as having it noticed in real life but we here have noticed... and I'm sure everyone would join me in saying we'd like you to feel better about yourself and be able to be healthier. I can understand that you feel like you're ugly and bad but I'm betting that doesn't reflect the truth of the matter--nothing you've ever said here has made me think you're "bad." Dealing with a lot, sure. But not bad.
     
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    well according to the deletions of my other 'help!' threads with my old cutting addiction i need to stop talking about my bulimia on EC if i don't think i'm getting better soon to 'spare' people the grief of actually helping and dealing with someone with a problem. :dry:
     
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    sorry. still hurting from that stuff... ^
     
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    that might be a sympthom of depression...
    i used to feel like that a long time ago when trying to quit smoking.
    it is a horrible feeling.