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Please help! Need advice! Am I bi?

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  1. greenthumb95

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    For the last 10 years or so, I have gone back and forth on whether or not I could be "bisexual" or curious about sexual acts with guys. I have often fantasized about going down on a guy, and look at porn that includes those types of sex acts as well. I have never had an actual experience with a man, but am extremely curious about the act of giving oral sex. However, I am married to an amazing woman, who grew up conservatively and isnt as open minded as I would like. Shes not homophobic, but doesnt have much exposure to these types of things. Recently, my urges to experiment have gotten intense, and frequent. I find myself talking to quite a few female friends, and even family members about my situation in regard to my sexual orientation. I really want to tell my wife, but I am scared beyond belief that she will not understand, and freak out on me. To be quite honest, the fact that I have never had an actual experience sexually may not mean I am bisexual, but I do know that the urge to give oral sex is intense. It seems as though I can talk to everyone but her abotu this, and it has recently came back to bite me, as a couple of her siblings had people tell them I was questioning them in regard to how i came off sexual orientation wise. How do I tell my wife i have fantasies about men? Is there a way to somehow "gauge" her reaction, to see how she might react..or if she currently suspects anything? it should also be noted that I get teased all the time, and have been teased all my life because people think i am gay, or have those tendencies. The following incident happened over a year ago. so i look at the craigslist casual encounters section..alot. never respond to any ads or anything..but i like looking at the couples looking for men section.i search bi couples alot. anyways, about 8 months ago..i left it up on the browser. she saw it. asked me about it that night, and was like why were you on that site? i freaked out immediately and told her it was a pop up, and that i didnt go there on purpose. shes like bull, i clicked back..and saw the pages you looked at. she then asked if i was curious about what type of people posted on there, thats what i told her i mean. she then flat out asks..you arent gay are you? i say no immediately and shes like, then its not a huge deal, just dont lie to me about it.[br>[br>Ultimately, what I would like out of this entire situation is acceptance. My end goal is her accepting this part of me. I have really hated myself for the last how many years because of these urges. I look at a man, and immediately think of how nice his penis might look , or taste..or feel inside of me. Up until lately, the urges were just for the penis..but now..they are towards a certain guy. They have grown in a sense. I get very nervous and anxious around him, not to mention very aroused. Problem is, he is the husband of my wifes best friend. The other reason I want to know what she thinks is because every now and then, she will make little jokes, or comments that indicate to me she suspects something at the very least. She will randomly ask me if I am gay, and play it off as a joke..then when I ask her if she thinks I am, she says Cant you take a joke, I am just giving you a hard time.

    I honestly wish i knew exactly what my wife suspected/thought already..that way I think I could approach it better with her. If she does suspect something, then she is really good at hiding it because the times shes made jokes, i will ask her if she thinks i like men or something and immediately she says no.[br>[br>Another issue i am facing is i have talked to quite a few people. Her couple good friends know, which got to her sisters. The sisters said they wouldnt say anything and didnt want to get involved..but part of me wonders if someone will before i get a chance to talk to her. [br>[br>Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get more of an accurate read on her suspicions before I fully tell her?

    We have kind of talked about it, my wife and i. But it was over electronic means of communication.

    I am finding out who my true friends are with all of this, as a few of my guy friends wont even talk to me anymore. Was I wrong by talking to so many female friends?

    The wife and I have discussed it somewhat, over IM and such while I was at work. She basically told me that unless I would ever leave her for a guy, why make a big deal about it, or discuss it? Advice pleasE!

    My wife and I have an OK sex life. It doesnt happen very often, and is often quite boring when it does.

    I am pretty close with one of her female friends, and we recently discussed things..and she thinks i am trapped in my marriage, and she believed I was gay from the first day she met me. Am i in denial?
     
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    Most people I think would suggest that if you're thinking that way about guys you're probably bi. Some would say unless you actually DO it, you're not.

    Personally, I think if you're thinking about it, you *are. Until the first time you do it with a girl you're considered straight with no more than thoughts to go on after all.

    EDIT: probably are
     
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    Yea, i have been thinking about it for many years.
     
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    I disagree 100% with what Ellia told you, from what you stated, it sounds like you are what you claim your orientation to be. Having thoughts about a certain sex or person in general means NOTHING! It's about what you feel that matters, take me for example, I question sometimes and have same sex fantasies every now and again and started to get them when I started to question, but in time I realized, having them is not as important as how I FEEL about them. Of course I am not 100% and not betting on ANYTHING because I never even went out with ANYONE but only had crushes on women which is the only thing I can be sure of; however, my sexual orientation seems to be at least straight but that could possibly change through further experimentation but I doubt it.

    Basically, I am curious because despite me not getting turned on by thoughts like these, I still wonder if in reality I would, I of course don't go looking for situations where I could, but the thought lingers everynow and again; basically' you're curious, simple as that.
     
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    Hmm, I see your points. I think if i had a more open minded family and friends, that I would have acted on the urges and experimented. I am honestly pretty ashamed of the intensity of my curiosity when it comes to this.
     
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    Hi unknown. It's interesting to see the opposite side of this! Out of interest, where do you put the tipping point between bi-curious and bisexual?
     
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    Tell me, how is it you feel about these thoughts, do they turn you on? Do they arouse you; does it make you hard? Or does it feel weird, or uncomforting? If it is the first, you could be Bi; or possibly, even gay. But if it is the second one; you could just simply curious. Then you have your answer.

    ---------- Post added 6th Aug 2013 at 11:10 PM ----------

    Bicurious example; Do I like this?

    Bisexual example; I think I might like this....
     
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    Well, certain thoughts turn me on. Like, the one that turns me on the most is when I watch straight porn, and a girl is going down on a hung guy..I will imagine I am her, and in my mind I can feel the textures, etc..and just thinking about that..yes..arouses me a great deal..but then after I "finish" I feel dirty and ashamed.
     
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    This could be hard to settle in but... you could in fact be gay. You practically just mentioned the one fantasy that turns you on the most, and it leads into a very obvious gay leaning. Of course, that is to assume all of your opposite sex fantasies do not turn you on at all either, tell me; do you have any fantasies of women that turn you on; on a similar or equal and possibly even higher level than that aforementioned same sex fantasy?
     
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    Oh yea, i fantasize about women alot..many fantasies turn me on just as much..but lately ive noticed that my female fantasies involve strap ons, etc. Another thing that bothers me..I am close with my wifes best friend..she knows all about this..shes very open..she thought i was gay from the day i met her.
     
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    Common stereotype: Women can identify gay men 100%, no faults. NOT TRUE! So do not take her opinion about YOUR sexuality get to you because it is YOUR business alone, not hers, she has no right to tell you what you are, any more than I do; which is why I use words like "MAY" or "POSSIBLY" and more often than not; "PROBABLY" because I could be wrong and of course think you should figure it out yourself.

    If this is lately; I'd try to take mental notes of it. It of course could mean SOMETHING but it may just be nothing; you would not be the only straight/bi guy that happens to LOVE anal play and other cunnilingus acts. So this could just be a fetish and your unexplored bi/homosexuality coming out into your conscious mind for the first time in many years; or be just a weird fetish like said before; in my opinion, too early and not enough information; I recommend keeping a journal with you and writing down what it is that goes on in your mind as well as express your feelings on it, before; during; and afterwards. In time; you'll find yourself, in the mean time; go with the flow, and don't worry, your wifes friend should not get involved in this sort of thing, because if you do find out that this is really just nothing, and your marriage has ended, it could be bad for you and her.
     
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    "she thought i was gay from the day i met her"

    Unless you did something on that day to suggest you might be I wouldn't worry to much about that bit...
     
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    Well, I made the mistake of involving her. Shes the only really open minded, accepting person that I know. Her and I talk alot. I guess when it comes to my bi fantasies, its mainly a huge curiosity/desire to give oral sex to a man.
     
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    I think you are Bisexual possibly, of course from your story it sounds an awful lot like you lived your whole life without even giving a thought to these desires; basically; it COULD be your bisexual side finally making itself aware to you and does not want to be ignored anymore. As for your sex life; search the internet to spruce up things in bed. It could also be that you just simply are having a huge craving for dopamine (a chemical released in your brain when you feel pleasure) and need a sufficient release.
     
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    Hi there! It looks like you're searching for closure, and you've definitely come to the right place. Ten years is a bit long to let curiosities go unanswered, and you're wondering if you could potentially swing that way, but aren't sure yet.

    I know what you're feeling, since I was there last year, and even several months ago on EC. It can be many things: scary, exciting, and confusing, but hey, that's life in general. It involves risks to move forward.

    Personally, I'm glad I found this community. I haven't always been, living so long in-denial, running whenever "gay" came up and making excuses, but I'm finally starting to settle in with the idea, not that you will go down the same path. Who knows, if not for my exposure to the community, I might have blindly married the first woman who came my way, all the while feeling empty and miserable, without knowing why.

    And it's funny, how some people can just *tell* when someone is or isn't, while that person is completely unaware, assuming themselves to be straight. I guess we're not as good at pretending as we think? :lol:
     
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    From what you read, do you think my wifes best friend is right? I am super close with her by the way. She is very open and accepting.
     
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    I'm not such a huge fan of telling others "YOU ARE! ACCEPT IT!" since there was a lot of that when I was still coming to terms with myself, and it only resulted in more anger and frustration towards the community, but, it's definitely a possibility. There are many members on the site who recall times when others would imply it, either when they were closeted, or in-denial.

    I've checked girls out, gotten off to straight porn, fallen in love with women, even enjoyed sex with them to a degree, but that was before "testing" the other option. Some people always know, and others? We go through life assuming we're straight and feeling unfulfilled. There's a debate whether I'm bisexual or gay, though I can say my preferences have definitely shifted to men recently, though I still sometimes think, "She's hot" or "Could I date her?" They're fleeting usually, and my thoughts usually go back to my same-sex attractions.

    The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off. :eusa_clap
     
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    Would you mind helping me figure out whether i am or not?
     
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    It will take time, we will help you, but you certainly will not learn it in a days night.
     
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    that is a good point. I just wish i knew what i was.