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can i not be gay anymore?

Discussion in 'Sexual Orientation' started by barbadosslim, Apr 5, 2014.

  1. barbadosslim

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    I don want to be gay anymore, I know I'm probably just having a crisis of identity, but being gay has done nothing positive for my life. I am afraid to tell my family I am basically out to my friends but there is still that fear of judgement(my own included for some reason) that has made me afraid of the intimacy required to be close to someone. I spend my days frustrated and scared all I want is a little relief and I feel the only way to achieve it is to not be gay anymore I'm sorry if I wasted your time or if you think I am pathetic(i already know I am) for not being able to cope with my own issues :-(
     
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    Insecurity is a natal feeling even straight people have the same feelings. There is nothing wrong with you beeing the way you are. big hugs too you:-D
     
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    No, you can't. I understand what you're going through. Being gay is harder, being gay is going to be an obstacle for a while. But it's unchangeable. Don't wish to be straight; it does nothing. You are gay, and you have to face that.

    Denying it for a long time will likely be the worst thing that could happen to you. It will consume you, you won't be able to be happy, your life will be nothing like it could be if you accept yourself.

    I understand that it's hard, and it will take time, but you must realise that you can't keep thinking like this, for your own sake.
     
  4. You can't change your sexuality. I've tried to stop liking girls and force myself to only like boys, but it just isn't possible. The sooner you embrace your sexuality instead of fighting it, the happier you'll be. Have you tried talking to someone, maybe a therapist?

    Best of luck to you. Feel free to message me anytime :slight_smile:
     
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    Although anyone change change their actions, I don't know how you'd change your orientation. If you find out something that really works, please be sure to let the Nobel prize committee know.
     
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    I feel like I knew I couldn't change it from the start, and just foolishly hope I could change it or that it would just go away. I appreciate the supportive comments(i don't get much positive anything in my life currently and a kind word goes a long way even from complete strangers lol not trying to be mean just using humor as my natural coping mechanism) and no hermione I haven't tried to talk to anyone about it because, like I mentioned earlier, there is the ever looming threat of judgement from my friends and family and no lgbt friends to turn to I am a bit lacking in people who will be supportive and I haven't been to see a therapist since before I started figuring out I was gay(so the issue clearly never came up and was in fact not even an issue at this point) plus I can't afford one in the first place. And to be honest I'm not even sure how I landed on this site but I read through a few threads and figured you guys wouldn't ridicule me while I make an attempt to sort myself out a little so I must mention again my thanks for the support and in your pro bono therapy lol
     
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    Hi Barbadosslim

    First off, you are not pathetic, you are a unique person with amazing talents with buckets of potential to live a happy fulfilled life.

    In a sense, most of us are way too judgemental about ourselves, I know, I'm my own worst enemy and like you I've steered away from intimacy because I was and am scared of rejection, not just by others but by myself.

    One thing that you need to realise is that no matter how hard you try, how much you pray or how much effort you put into pretending, nothing in this world is going to zap you and change your sexual orientation. I know, I've been there and tried everything to change mine since I hit puberty at 12... Twenty six years of denial and I'm still gay and because I didn't want to live a fake life I've steered away from intimacy and never had a long term relationship with someone.... I'm not counting flings as I've had those with both guys and girls, but nothing really meaningful where I can say that I've given myself to someone emotionally.

    That is a sad road to travel on and I wish I took the steps earlier in my life to accept myself for whom and what I am. Remember, you are you, you are the same person right now as you where yesterday as you will be tomorrow... The people who love you love you for you and not your orientation. You are much more than a brand, so don't label yourself. Allow yourself to be you, love yourself for being you and then take a good look at all the good stuff in your life, the talents you have, the abled body that you have, your parents your friends. You have so much which trust me a lot of people don't have.

    A few month ago on my 38th birthday I decided I needed to accept myself. I made an effort to go and see a therapist and unlike my past attempts where I tried to talk myself into being straight, I went in and told her I am gay, I know that, it's not going to miraculously change, if it hasn't changed in the past 26 years nothing is going to change it in another 26 years... So I asked her to help me accept myself and that's what we've been working on....

    And you know what....

    I've met someone amazing and for the first time in my life I'm allowing myself to fall in love...

    I don't know what the future hold, but I'm sure it's going to be much better than what I had and I am glad I'm not wasting any more time.

    So my advice to you would be to go and see someone, and in stead of trying to change who you are, try to accept yourself for who and what you are. Life is too short to waste it all, trust me, I know, I have wasted a large chunk of mine.

    You don't have to out yourself, your sexuality is no bodies business... And if you are ready and feel the need to tell someone, do it, it is liberating but still, it doesn't change who you are.... Straight people don't walk around telling everyone they are straight, neither do you have to walk around telling everyone that your gay. You don't have to be a stereotype, just be you, the normal you and people will still accept you and love you for being you.
     
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    Ditz, it sounds like you have been in this same position, I have just been ashamed of who I am since I was 11 and have never recieved so much positivity over anything in my life( usually I'm met with jeers and violence at least when it comes to my sexual orientation) I really just don't know how to react and having stepped this far out of my comfort zone has made me feel foolish and needy making my shame and self loathing just a shade deeper I'm sorry :icon_sad:
     
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    Stepping out of your comfort zone is an amazing achievement which you should be proud of... It's not supposed to be easy, if it was everyone would do it and we would have a world full of extraordinary people, because that's what you become when you step out of your comfort zone an extraordinary person.

    Being different makes you original, and anything original is more valuable than a copy, remember that.

    The fact that you've taken that step tells me that you've got guts and and if you hang in there you will make it. Life has a way to reward those who take a leap of faith. That said, it's not going to be easy and you will always have individuals who feel threatened by you. They feel threatened because anything that's different falls outside their comfort zone and that makes them scared. They hide their fear by ganging up in groups and typically that's where bullying comes from, whether it is verbal or physical, it is seated in fear and a low self esteem.

    So look at yourself in the mirror and be proud of who you are, you are more than anyone that's stuck in a comfort zone with a limited outlook on life... My advice; ignore them and feel sorry for them, life has a way of giving back ten fold of what you give out, so their reward will be ten fold the abuse they dish out. It works the other way around too, be good to others and good will return to you ten fold.

    I think you should give yourself permission to be yourself and then learn to be positive about it. Think of all the positive things that you have and can have in your life. If you have a negative thought, replace it with a positive one. Your outlook on life will greatly influence what happens to you, and you can steer that to be positive if you force yourself to see the positive things.

    So in stead of thinking I'm gay and will never have someone in my life, rather tell yourself out loud that I am gay and can have a great guy in my life... Do that with every negative thought, turn it into a positive one and before you know it your life will be positive.

    You are an amazing person, it's time you tell yourself that and it's time that you start to believe it.
     
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    You know you're right. I would like to start off with an apology I'm not usually so down on myself I guess I just lost my composure or something; I'm usually very upbeat about my life and where its headed(which is good lol cuz its kinda floundering right now haha) I don't know what happened. I just get so down when I remember I'm gay LOL but I'm workin on that promise thank you guys so much for the positivity I will try and work on liking myself but it may take a while I'm not easy to like lol
     
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    Wouldn't you be facing the same, or similar, challenges in your life if you were straight?
     
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    I suppose I would but being straight would take some of the weirdness and shame out of the guess work I just want to be normal and not a pathetic dissappointment to my friends and family I'm the memeber of the family that has allowed himself to be stunted socially by things I don't feel comfortable discussing with the people that are close to me
     
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    So you agree there's a lot of weirdness and shame regardless of your sexuality.

    Don't blame yourself for being stunted socially. The people that are close to you should be making it comfortable for you to discuss anything with them.
     
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    Yeah lots of it but I'm fairly certain I have done this to myself my self image hovers just under the floor and so I feel much of the weirdness and shame are products of my own mind that I have allowed to much space and now that its the norm I'm having a hard time trying to come out of it :confused:
     
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    You've taken another step forward by acknowledging that the weirdness and shame are products of your own mind.

    You are usually very upbeat about your life and where its headed. Now you're being too hard on yourself. Can you share something positive about yourself with us?

     
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    I just went back to work at the restaurant I work at I'm getting ready to get my own casenand my roo.mates cat just had kittens the sun is out and shining(which is rare here on The southern Oregon coast) and although I have to work today I am getting my skateboard out of pawn tomorrow to enjoy the supposed week of sunshine. And now that I don't have all day to sit around and feel sorry for myself because I am working again thongs are looking up and I have been forcing myself to see the good more than the bad you're right I have been too hard on myself and I fully intend to change that :slight_smile: thank you guys for your support :slight_smile:

    ---------- Post added 9th Apr 2014 at 12:35 PM ----------

    And as a side note it occured to me I probably wouldn't be the person I am today without all of the things that I have done/endured and all I all I probably wouldnt have the friends I have if it wasn't for that so maybe its not so bad
     
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    That's the spirit, remember to be yourself, it's all that you can do. Hell I've been struggling with the same thing for over a decade, I've gone as far as dating the opposite sex and feeling incredibly guilty about it. The sooner you completely accept yourself the easier life will be.
     
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    I hear that I tried dating a couple girls even if it was to just to throw off suspicions but I felt really bad about it because it was one more lie to maintain and I am a very honest person by nature those girls are among the very short list of people I've come out to (and they happened to be the excitedt to have a new gay friend type which was good for me lol) but now maybe lying through omission is the only "dishonest" thing i am currently doing by remaining in the closet hut I think I am not ever just gonna "come out" utright but I won't lie about it if questioned also I've been thinking and my parents are quite observant so I feel as if they may have put two and two together but I have no way of knowing so I'm going to continue assuming they have not lol but, like I said, if it comes up I'm jot gonna deny it anymore I'm on my own and financially stable ish so the worst that could happen is they will be disappointed/maybe a little mad for a while right?
     
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    They might... Mainly because the dreams they had for you, i.e. wife, kids etc. needs to be replaced with a new set of dreams to fit the new set of facts that they may have suspected but never had confirmed. So as you yourself have to go trough a grieving period, they too have to go trough it. The good news is that time heals and that they will get trough it unless they of the super conservative type that are totally anti gay. You'll have to give them time and space...
     
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    I think they'd come around eventually but it might be sometime they arent anti gay really but their opinions aren't high although I feel like that might change after a while because they will eventually find out they have a gay son and then will have to lay their low opinions to rest I hope