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I don't want to be attracted to males!!!

Discussion in 'Sexual Orientation' started by Jason1998, Apr 30, 2014.

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What do you feel that I am based off this?

  1. Gay (relationships with males only)

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    52.4%
  2. Bisexual (enough to have successful relationships with females)

    10 vote(s)
    47.6%
  3. Straight (relationships with females only)

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  1. Jason1998

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    Can I ever be happy ? Please help

    Please help me. Tired of this confusion
    Here is everything. Please please help me. All the cards are layed out.
    I am 15 years old.
    All my life, I have been called girly and gay because I act somewhat like
    It. I sort of blame it on the atmosphere I grew up which was mostly women.
    From ages 7-8, my sister dressed me up as a girl and made me act like one and I had a lot of fun. I had a boyfriend who I really didn't have sexual attraction for at that age, it was just fun to act like that. From what I remember I got really in character, and acted well.

    Anyways, my parents were very homophobic all my life and always taught me
    Not to be gay.
    Starting at the age of 10 is the earliest gay thought I remember.
    From that age, until several months ago, I thought I was gay but gave it absolutely
    No thought. I masterbated to men, watched gay porn, had several crushes on guys, and fantasizes about them all the time. I think I may have had several attractions to men before them but maybe repressed it due to family circumstances and just being young


    A couple of months back, I started to reevaluate
    My life and think about it, and realized that I was bisexual leaning towards males.
    I have had many many crushes on women as well, as well as obbesions.
    I could masterbate to hetero fantasies and hetero porn ( me looking at the women), just as well but it takes more time. Lesbian porn doesnt arouse me at all
    I have had many stronger crushes on women then with males. But with women, the crush fell more emotionally as well as sexually.

    For example, I fell in love with Elizabeth berkley. Mostly her
    Personality. I found her amazingly nice and started to act like her a little because I was so in love. Then I saw the movie showgirls, and was very attracted to her character, the stripper. I masterbated to it quite a few times as well.

    I also had some crushes on guys such as gale Harold and zac efron. These crushes were not that big, and the thing is, i didn't want to be on a relationship though, just found them attractive.

    I also am currently in love with kourtney kardashian. I have strong sexual and physical and emotional urges towards her.



    Now I am confused with who to be with in the future. I am not comfortable not being straight at all and feel that I can never be in a gay relationship. In that prospect, women have my heart.


    Sometimes, when I look at women, and see how beautiful and smooth their bodies are, they are my winners. But other days, it's like that with men.

    With women, when I have fantasies I get physically aroused( boner) but I don't get that feeling of horniness. With men I do.

    But with women, I want an actual relationship and right now, I do like a girl more emotionally. I don't find her attractive, because she really is not to put it in a nice way. But talking to her makes
    Me forget, and all the pain goes away.

    With guys, especially cute, I get very anxious and nervous, probably because I don't know them. But it's an uncontrollable feeling even if I don't find them so attractive.

    I will not tell this to any of my family members or future wife.

    I just feel like with a women, sometimes, something is missing which is the masculinity features of a men. But with men, there is something missing as well which is the softness that women posses.

    I don't want to try to have a relationship with guys now, I want to ignore it although it is pretty strong. But I just don't want to, yes maybe some sexual
    Relations, but at the End of the day I want to be with women

    So I am sexually attracted to both with a preference for men, but overal, preference for women


    My biggest fear is getting married, having kids, and realize I'm gay and have to divorce my wife.


    Gay sex:
    Just like oral, mans basic masculinity, sexual noises they make, and their touch


    Women:
    Vaginal sex, creative sexy sex positions (jacuzzi, shower, bedroom), their breasts, women's body movements and basic excitement of getting caught and being naked

    I hate fashion, malls, musicals, plays, singing.
    I love dancing (ballroom), drama, gossip




    Attached is a poll. Please answer it and be 100% honest. Your opinion counts
     
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    I'm not voting simply because the answer can only be figured out by yourself.

    Anyway, despite that, it's clear you're not straight at least. You talk about masturbating to gay porn which is a clear indicator of that. Apart from that I can't really think of anything else to say there.
     
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    I'm not basing my decision off your votes, I just want to know your opinion
     
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    You sound "guilty gay" to me. You are attracted to men yet feel guilty about it so, you're trying desperately to not be gay. I do not think that marrying a woman would be appropriate.
     
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    Re: Can I ever be happy ? Please help

    I'm going to be 100% honest and do my best to be 100% responsible here.

    Let's see...short answer to your title question: yes, you can ever be happy. But that decision lies in you, not in us.

    But there is no way anyone can responsibly determine or even have an opinion on someone else's sexuality from this kind of description...there's really no way anyone but you can determine your sexuality from *any* amount of information.

    It sounds like you're having a confusing time of it...and that's normal for your age (hell, it's still normal for my age).

    What I truly suggest (and I say this from personal experience) is that you find some good counseling...dunno what might be available at school...dunno whether you feel ok talking to your parents about lining some up for you...but whoever and however it's done, it's worth doing, and it's worth finding a counselor who specializes in LGBT issues (specializing in LGBT youth/adolescence would be best). If they're any good, they won't be able to determine your sexuality either...but they will be able to give you guidance and some tools so that *you* can figure it out.

    If that doesn't seem like an option for you, or isn't something you're willing to consider, then my next best advice is to forget about putting a label on your sexuality and just date/experiment with whoever seems attractive at any given moment. You'll figure out soon enough what you like. In the meantime, you are young...don't make any life-changing decisions or get married before you figure it out...but you have plenty of time.

    Good luck, and keep in touch!
     
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    Re: Can I ever be happy ? Please help

    Hi Jason :smilewave
    I mean u can really have any type of life u choose. I couldn't answer your poll bc I would have to say your bi sexual but I can't say if it's a preference for either I would say 50/50 anyway marriage might not be such a great idea bc maybe some night you'll want the d and other nights you'll want the v. But I think the next step is to go to 2nd base and then see who u really like.

    Good luck :thumbsup:
     
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    as Pluvia said you are the only one who can truly figure this out. based on what you said you are most likely not straight but past that it is impossible to say as there is much more left than just bisexual or gay. you may not fit either of those. as those make the assumption that you have matching romantic and sexual orientations.

    Take your time and you will figure it out. maybe try to go on a few dates and see which feels right.
     
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    Re: Can I ever be happy ? Please help

    ///I don't think your sexuality has fully defined itself yet, and that you need to do some dating and have some interactions with other people of both sexes in order to come to an understanding of your sexuality as it develops and defines itself. Trying to pin yourself down is nice, for people who know for sure, but if you don't, better to just keep quiet for now, until you do.
     
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    Hoestly from everything I read above, I see nothing indicating that you're straight or even, really, bi. The things that make it lean heavily in the gay direction are the combination of your masturbation fantasies being toward men, no attraction to lesbian porn, it taking much longer to get off to straight porn. The explanations about attraction to girls sound a lot more like wishful thinking and a desperate hope than actual attraction; many, many gay men have great connections with women and feel a bond to them, but have no sexual attraction to them, and I suspect that's what's going on for you.

    Finally, when you've got the above factors *and* a whole bunch of people suspecting you're gay... then it's highly likely you're gay.

    Of course, I know you don't want to hear that, and it is probably upsetting and maybe terrifying reading what I just wrote. Assuming that I'm correct (and only you can know if I am or am not), everything you're feeling, and everything you're going through is normal and almost all gay men go through it. Any time we deal with a loss -- in this case, loss of perception you're straight -- there are stages we go through, denial-anger-bargaining-grief-acceptance. They aren't necessarily sequential, and it seems like you're somewhere in that stages-of-loss continuum; you acknowledge attraction to men but hope to still end up with a woman, which is classic "bargaining", and you vehemently don't want to be gay, which is classic stages-of-loss "anger."

    As I said, I can't tell you definitively, only you can do that, but looking at what you wrote, it would be hard to credibly infer much of anything else, at least for me.
     
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    Chip, I just read this and I felt sad and depressed for 5 mins..... But then I realized that I don't agree with this. I don't feel gay, I know I have sexual attraction to females as well
     
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    Well you have to know though that since you post in a coming-out forum, most people here will not assume that you are straight, simply because most people on this forum are not straight. Everything you say could be interpreted as gay, but as straight as well. Having crushes on actual guys in your real life and fantasizing sexually and willingly about them is the only thing from all the information you gave that lets me really supsect you might be gay, but hey, that's just me. (I had to laugh about you providing your hobby list and expecting us to extract your sexual identity from that :grin:). But anyway, doing a poll about your sexual identity and basing your perception on the outcome is riddiculous.
    You are only 15. Give it time, it can go in one or another direction.
     
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    This wasn't posted in a coming out forum.... It was posted in the sexual and romantic orientation forum
     
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    I believe Youp means in general, not the specific sub forum. Sexual & Romantic Orientation is the right sub forum for a topic such as this. :slight_smile:
     
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    Actually, regardless of where you *intended* to post, this thread was originally posted in the "LGBT Later in Life" forum, and it was moved here (to "Sexual and Romantic Orientation"), presumably by the mods.
     
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    I agree with this, you seem very in denial too~ you are trying to hold onto any slight thing that you might be straight, a lot of people do this... In the end its your life and choice but i believe you are gay in denial~

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    I don't understand why everybody thinks that. Yes I am attracted to males but I really really don't want to be but I am. How is that denial? I can still fantasize about females, and straight porn is awesome. I feel that I am bisexual but cannot accept my gay side of that yet.
     
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    Hi Jason, having read through this here's the short & sweet version of my advice:

    Obviously you aren't 100% confident of what your sexuality is (or else you wouldn't be asking us this). If you ever want to be 100% confident of your sexuality, you're going to have to reach a point where you're accepting of yourself no matter what your orientation is. It's not an easy process, but luckily you're young and can easily spend years getting there. Until you can honestly say "If I turn out to be gay I would be fine with that," there will always be the suspicion that you're just talking yourself into the attraction to women. If you're comfortable with the possibility of living in a same-sex relationship your whole life and even then you still find women attractive, then you could be confident you're bi.

    (OK, less short & sweet than I intended :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:)
     
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    It's definitely a bit of denial, and a lot of classic bargaining ("OK, I admit I'm attracted to guys but I don't want to be, I want to change")

    As I said above, only you can decide for yourself. Those of us who are posting here know only what you've told us.

    But, speaking for myself, from what you've said, I'd place a pretty high wager that you're most likely gay. Your description of attraction to women sounds more like wishful thinking and wanting to be straight than any genuine sexual attraction to women.

    Gay guys can masturbate to straight porn but, as you pointed out, it tends to take a lot longer. And straight guys generally find lesbian porn arousing (almost all lesbian porn is made for straight men).

    And "being attracted to males but not wanting to be" is again, a textbook classic of a gay guy who is in denial about who he is. He's acknowledging it, but wishing it weren't so. And unfortunately, no matter how much we wish it weren't so, we can't change sexual orientation.

    You say that you're "attracted to women" but what you've described isn't sexual attraction. An awful lot of gay guys, particularly in their teens, only have girls as friends. They like spending time with them, but they have zero interest in having sex with them and don't fantasize about them. Think of Kurt's character when he was in high school in Glee: he spent most of his time around girls. It certainly didn't make him straight.

    I know this isn't what you want to hear. And I still can't be definite about it, because only you can do that, but everything you're saying points to being gay, not straight or bi, at least to me.
     
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    Well if one prefers gay to lesbian porn, it could be for the penetration which is surely highly arousing for most people. But straight people really just don't like gay porn usually. Sure, they can get off, but porn is made for getting off. I could get off to Granny and dog porn as well. I think what Counts is if you would like to Take Part of that Scene and whose Spot you would Like to have.
     
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    Ok, I understand what you are saying 100%. I know I am 100% not straight and I am ok with that. From the beginning of questioning my sexuality, I know that I was not gay exclusively.

    I have many male friends as well who I can bind with-heck my best friend is a male, I cannot at all imagine anything romantical with them. Ew.

    I also love breasts, and touching a girls butt makes me happy. In other words, my friends who are girls aren't really that attractive- they are not girly at all. Some of them I do have feelings for- strong. With my guy friends I have never experienced this.

    How can a gay male pleasurably fantasize about women and get aroused ?