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  1. Passionpit23

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    Hello,
    I am an 18 yr old girl whos going through the most horrendous situation possible. This past senior year has been going smoothly until I began romantically speaking to a girl I've known since sophomore year of high school. She was drunk one day and texted how she felt about me and how she did like me this year. I did not know and I identified as straight. Up until now, we've been hanging out but my parents one day caught us outside my house as she was touching my hair and laying her head on my shoulder. My parents were outraged and immediately told me to cut off my connection with her. Sooner or later I felt myself feeling so strongly for her I couldn't cut it off. We both understood the consequences of getting caught but did not care..stupidly. Yesterday I went to a school event and hung out with her afterwards, lying to my parents that I was at a friends. My parents essentially caught me in the lie where I proceeded to tell them I do like her and I'm still figuring out my emotions, that I was not indeed their nightmare of a lesbian. My parents were ballistic and threatened (pretty sure they are) going to transfer me to a nearby high school and a psychologist. They declared they would never accept me for who I am because of their religious and moral beliefs. My mom sobbed believing that she failed me as a parent. I told them they might as well transfer me because I cant change my emotions for the girl I like and that its no use..even though I am regretting this because I don't want to transfer, especially with it being my final 2 months. This all began when my younger brother caught me and the girl speaking after school, where he proceeded to ask his friends if me looking at her necklace was "lesbian" of me and then told my mom because he said it was a disgrace if I was a lesbian and he hates the girl I talk to, because according to him all lesbians are horny bitches and she looked like she was ready to fuck me. I'm so afraid and lost I don't know what to do or who to turn to... I've calmly tried to explain to them I can figure it out and make decisions on my own. I guess this is what I get for lying. I NEED ADVICE PLEASE, I really think I might be falling in love...its that serious. Should I stop talking to her? I want to hopefully even though Im not counting on it to continue our relationship perhaps in college, even as friends. I just want her in my life. My parents despise her so much and theres a school event soon where our families will be in a mini scholarship award banquet. Prom also is near, where I declined guys who asked me because I rather go alone and with her but that wouldve been horrible decision my parents are barrading me saying that if a guy doesnt ask me I cant attend. Im suffocated and Im hurting her in the process..HELPPPP ASAAAAP.....:tears::icon_sad:
     
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    Re: URGENT URGENT need of help

    This actually belongs in the sexuality forum...

    That said, you are 18 so, I would advise that you play everything low key until college. It sucks but I think the best thing would be to tell this girl exactly how you feel about her and that you want to be with her but until you're out of your parents' house, you don't want to risk being completely separated from her by being forced to transfer schools. If she really cares for you, she should understand that you're trying to safeguard your relationship with her by downplaying it publicly. Do that and then maybe text or whatsapp or viber or something.

    Sorry that you're having such a tough time.
     
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    Sorry I am new. I guess this is what Ill have to do. Im going to tell my parents tomorrow morning to not transfer me and that'd Ill stop talking to her. My mom took down her number when I gave it to her when she caught me in the lie from last night so idk if she plans to block her messages or what. My parents are conservative christians and I believe from what I see a bit homophobic. Should I completely stop talking to her? Idk what to do and my parents dont even wanna let me hang out with my other small group of best friends from forever because they were "accomplices" in me seeing the girl and accepting me-making them bad friends. Im just tired of everything and so stressedd.
     
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    Might I recommend a pre-paid phone? Or letters? You might find a place to hide them like in the girl's bathroom somewhere. Don't stop talking to her; you like her, right?? What about email? Even some kind of "anonymous" site like a game site... neopets?
     
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    I'm so sorry this crap is being done by your parents.

    Fact: You are 18. Legally, there is very little (like, NOTHING, honestly) that they can do to control you any more.

    If you had the money to afford your own cell phone & number, they would not be able to control who you were in contact with.

    And they CANNOT "send" you to a counselor against your will, at 18.

    Fact: There are only 2 months of school left. Find a way to get a communication to this girl that you really like her, and want to continue to get to know her, but be upfront about the situation with your parents right now. Tell her that you have to lie low for only 2 more months (2 months isn't the end of the world, trust me)...and after that, so long as she is 18 (I hope so) and you are 18, there's not a damn thing they can do to stop you.

    HOWEVER: If she is under 18, I wouldn't touch that with a 10-foot pole right now, hun. Simply because if your parents choose to, they can legally get you into a whole shitload of trouble for that. All they have to do is *insinuate* or fabricate that you've had any sexual-type contact (even just touching 'inappropriately'/inappropriate body parts) in any way, and they've got you. :/

    And: If you are still dependent upon your parents financially or for a roof over your head, I'd be very careful, too. Sadly. :frowning2:

    If they're going to remain like this (which it sounds like they have a pretty good chance of doing), it might be worthwhile thinking about finding your first job to start to support yourself & move out, after high school...unless you feel like you won't need their financial support for college. (i.e., you have all your own scholarships, and no money comes from them for your education)

    (*hug*) I wish you the best and I'm so sorry.

    If you need any more support, keep writing. We're here.

    You're not alone.
     
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    But college does come first honestly...
     
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    Also, I apologize: I do not mean to scare the living daylights out of you as far as your parents getting you into legal trouble concerning this girl (if she's under 18 right now) goes-- it's not most parents' goal to get their children arrested or in legal trouble.

    It's just that I know from friends' stories that really conservative, religious parents can too frequently go a bit batshit crazy over homo stuff...and they take leave of their senses a bit. In a twisted way, it's because they care about you & are simply terrified. Though sometimes it has more to do with them and their fears, than about fears for you. :/

    I really feel you just, for your benefit, need to de-escalate the situation right now, and keep things on the down-low. Like, really down-low. Don't underestimate their ability to snoop, and to get information from people you thought were 'friends' and trustworthy. Parents can be very creative. :/

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    I think that's an individual's prerogative, honestly.

    For me, at this stage in my life, I would not choose to have to live miserably, in the closet, through my college years too - just to be able to use my parents' money for education. I'd stick that money right back in their eye with a giant "EFF YOU."

    However...that's from my perspective at my age, now. If I'd known who I was at 18? I don't know what I would have chosen. I hope, the same. But I just couldn't say.
     
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    Oh shite. I'm sorry to hear you're in such a horrible place right now.
    I'm even more sorry to read about your parents reaction.

    It's too late for me to think too hard about it I'm afraid, but my gut feeling tells me that you need a middleman of some kind to even talk to your parents. Any teachers you could turn to? Therapists specialising in LGBT in the area (Not to cure you but to figure out a way to communicate with your parents), ANY organisation helping LGBT students?

    You're 18, seem to have been thinking about that lass for a long time, and there is no point in denying it.
    If you want to experiment, and if you're really having a crush on a girl, you are probably at the best age to find out just how deep that side of you goes.

    I'm not sure your parents can even rule you at the age of 18? Not certain how it is over the States (If that is where you are), but I'm rather certain you classify as adult and can't be forced to do anything by your parents anymore (21 was only for hard liquor, right?).

    If they are giving you that much hostility, and partly due to religious beliefs, you really need a middleman, try to make them understand that things are they way they are, and nothing can change it - anything forced upon you will only make matters worse. And if none of that works, at 18, I personally would get the hell out if my parents cared more about their religious and moral beliefs than about loving me. I would -absolutely- give them a chance to come to terms with that you're potentially bi, pan, or even gay before doing anything radical though.

    I'm sorry about not being able to give you a more well thought out reply at this time, but please know that you're not alone, you don't deserve the hate you're getting, and that this community is more than willing to give you support and keep you on your feet.
     
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    Re: URGENT URGENT need of help

    As a student halfway through my university degree and living with my mom, it's INCREDIBLY nice not having to pay for food or shelter. As much as I'd like to live on my own, and have freedom of speech, I don't know if I'd be able to continue putting as much concentration and work into my studies as I do now if I had to be worrying about my finances as well. I might very well have gotten in over my head and had to drop out. I don't know...

    Either way, your parents need to get over themselves, honestly. If you're 18, they can't do ANYTHING besides kick you out. That being said, if they do that, they don't deserve to be your parents in the first place. If they don't have the love and compassion to help you get through this period in your life, then they won't have it when you need it again in the future.

    Perhaps they just need time to adjust. My parents have been known to say very awful things when they first encounter something they don't like. Give them time to think about it, or realize that it's true, and they'll usually calm down and start working through it. Maybe give them some time, see if that works?
     
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    Your mom did fail you by being so intolerant. But, so did your brother. Since you're 18, you're technically an adult, but living with your parents means your not independent. So, you might just have to wait things out or try to be more discrete when being with this girl.
     
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    Wow, I'm sorry, well If you really do love this girl then you need to be with her, your parents are wrong to force you to do anything, you should tell them that transferring schools now will only hurt your prospects of getting in to a good college. I hate to cause more drama but you should probably make it clear that you have to live your life and that you still really want them in it cause you love them but that they can't make your decisions for you throughout your life. I mean if you really love this girl and she loves you that's the best thing that can happen in life. Mutual live is the most beautiful thing this world has to offer, regardless of anything your happiness is the most important thing in life. We only have one life so we should spend it happy rather than worrying about what others think. You know? Life can only be as happy as you make it.
     
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    Hey! Thanks, I know since I am a legal adult in the state of NJ I dont have to exactly transfer and since I am at a young age I believe that I do have the right to see what suits me..if this is a "phase" or whatever, I just believe that if someone makes you feel special then it shouldnt matter what gender they are and this girl makes me feel amazing/happy. Thanks for the time for reading and replying...Its just so hard when my parents remind me how inexperienced I am when it comes to boyfriends and that this ONE girl changed everything. It only confuses me more when I dont have anything exactly planned or figured it out myself. I just am so consumed in this I feel like I am going through depression. I dont know what to do...
     
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    I know- this is the hardest thing I have ever to deal with in my life and since I am 18 I dont have to legally listen, but since my parents both played such an important role in my life I cant help but want to listen to them. I just feel like I was forced to lie to them when I had no more options. I dont know exactly if I love the girl so if Im solid any sexuality label, Im still figuring it out. All I know is that she makes me feel amazing, but the fact that my parents remind me that I was never this way before until now and that this ONE girl changed me confuses me even more along with what they believe "my lack of inexperience" with boys. It makes me doubt myself more and become brainwashed. I only have 2 months left of school then summer....what route should I take? I feel like even if I were to comply with not speaking to her I would eventually end up lying to them because I would wanna see her over the summer or whenever possible. I feel horrible for her even though she still sticks around...it hurts our relationship so much. I only get to see her in school and it kills me...
     
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    Thanks so much for the replies. Me and this girl are both 18 and we've encountered this situation for a while because of my parents seeing us once outside my house while she was touching my hair and her leaning her head on my shoulder. It freaked them out where I told them that yes I was questioning, but they made me stop seeing her so she wouldnt "tempt me any longer" but that only caused me to lie because I didnt want to stop...and now its become this. I just feel horrible if I disobey them because I know they have good intentions but they arent going about it the correct way. Im even getting cut off from my best friends who they believe were "accomplices" in helping cover up and lie for me when I was with the girl I liked. I dont know what to do, Im going through a depression...crying all the time and sleeping whenever possible. Im really upset and feel terrible. Yes I will continue to speak to her in school even though I hate lying to them and writing her letters stuffing them in her lockerr..as for college I am not financially independent even though I do plan to get a job this summer and work for my college education. Im just tired of everything you guys..I feel terrible..
     
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    My heart goes out to you, kid. :frowning2:

    Yes, your parents have good intentions, but then again, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, isn't it? It's hard to accept that your parents aren't perfect, and it's hard for them to accept that they might have raised you, and fed you, and brought you up by their methods, but you're still first and foremost your own individual person. My parents still haven't accepted, for example, that I'm not religious despite them having raised me as a "good christian". And if I was out of the closet, I'm sure they'd be up in arms denying that I identify the way I do, too. Whatever you do, don't try and guilt yourself over your feelings. Your parents might disapprove to the extreme, but that's their burden, not yours. You just need to do what's best for you, and if you really love this girl then you'll eventually need to put your foot down when you're less dependent on your parents. For now, I agree that keeping things low key is probably best.

    Keep us posted, we're here for you!
     
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    Ooh I feel sorry for you. :frowning2:

    I agree with Black Raven. You really should try to find someone who can give help objectively about your situation.

    And I also agree that moving out might be an option, although I have no idea how that would go in your country. I'm not familiar with that whatsoever. I think you don't need to rush it, you should take your time. If you rush it, you might regret it later.

    Take care. (*hug*)
     
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    I'll be honest, your story really shocked me. I didn't realize that NJ was so homophobic. Where I live, girls do these things all the time. My straight friends are always affectionate with each other. My girl buds and I have walked holding hands or with our arms around each other, kissed each other on the cheek, etc., and they're all straight. Then again, I live in a fairly okay place, people are split 50/50 on gay rights. Still, you can tell your parents that having her play with your hair or have her head on your shoulder isn't serious. And having her look at your necklace is not a lesbian thing at all. Girls do those sorts of things when they're friends.

    When it comes to the girl, I feel like you should keep talking to her. You've only got a little bit of school left, and then your brother won't be there to spy on you. If you really are falling for her, let her know what's going on with your family. I'm sure she'll understand. Heck, she'll probably be proud of you. I'm proud of you for fighting for this girl despite all the crap you've been given thus far. Try and let it cool down with your parents, and maybe introduce the idea that you might be something other than straight later on (maybe when you're in college and able to support yourself?). I know it sounds cruel, and maybe you'll find a better opportunity later on. I'm just trying to give advice based on what I've been given. However, it's all up to you.

    And as for prom... really?! That's ridiculous. Why can't you go without a date? That's a cruel thought... maybe try and ask what they would have said if you weren't asked by any boys to go to prom. Why should you miss out just because guys didn't ask? It might help them change their minds a little bit if they think about that hypothetical situation, and let you go in a group of friends. I have no idea if this will work, I'm just saying what I would do in your situation.

    I'm really sorry all this stuff is happening to you. Hope I helped. (*hug*)
     
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    Thanks once again, well we've been dealing with this for a while because of the fact that since we the outside my house incident my parents saw how masculine she dressed and felt threatened. Since then they tried to restrict my contact with her which led me to this mess of lies and crap where my friends had to cover for me whenever I was out with her. I'm happy I got everything off my chest though and can't help but feel good even though I truly am upset with all the stupid restrictions. For prom I was asked by two boys, but I barely ever spoke to them so I kindly declined. Plus I am the type to go alone because there isn't anyone I am interested or friend enough to go with. The girl I like knows everything so far except what happened last night (what I posted about) because I am too afraid to text her because my parents are tracking my txts and they took down her number. I dont wanna tell her until next week either because we have AP testing this week and I dont wanna distract her at all. Im really upset and Im just gonna comply with my parents for now and not speak to her unless in school. I do think I am in love or falling slowly. Its all this weirdness. Confusion about my sexuality and the fact that my parents make me question my feelings more through saying that I was never this way before and this ONE girl changed me and how could I do this to them and that I could change but shes like a fire tempting me to do bad things. I dont know you guys Im in a really weak postition since Ive been dealing with this situation for a while since me and the girl have been speaking.

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    Im going to try to let the situation cool down and speak to her on the down low...I cant believe this. I am 18 and dont have to listen but I respect them a lot and they play a big part in my life...my father told me he cried and my mothers hysterical. I dont know..I feel like I failed them when Ive been "straight" since I was young...but when I was little I did make out with my friends who were girls in grade school like age 7 or 8...but didnt think of girls that way until now. Underlying things like this matter? I dont think they believe in being bi either because they believe its only possible to be one way. GAHHHH I NEED ADVICE.
     
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    Thanks you guys, I haven't had much support on this situation because my best friends are Christians, except one who fully supports. My christian friends are more skeptical but fully support as well regardless of their religious beliefs and they even have experienced what I have-just not to this extent. I can't help but feel guilty for involving the girl who I like- idk if I love her or am falling but I really haven't felt this way before. Regardless of my inexperience with guys, which isnt really serious, my feelings don't compare even when I believed at a younger age I was in love with this boy. I'm pretty sure I was but this is so different..where Im actually crying and showing true emotion which is hard for me to do for another person unless I truly truly care. Im trying not to blame myself and I feel like I failed them somehow, like they dont deserve this but I cant help my emotions. Its worse since Im still figuring out how I feel even though I am sure I do really really like her and feel connected. I think its best to keep low key even though I feel guilty for lying about seeing her or speaking to her. It just ends up in a cycle of lies and Im afraid if I speak to her in school my brother will tell my mother again....*sigh* thanks for the input though this really helps.

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    Do you guys have any advice on how to feel less shitty about talking to her at school through letters or whatever classes possible? I always had this strong connection with my parents so lying really does kill me. I just feel so betrayed by my family who claimed to be there for me forever and love me (Which I don't doubt they do) but everything slowly has collapsed over this confusion that isn't exactly set and stone determining my sexuality 100%. I feel alone because not all my friends have experienced what I have to this extent but have dabbled in their own issues determining their sexuality. Im not trying to define my sexuality either, I'm just going with whatever feels right and makes me happy. I'm so glad I have this girl in my life though, she truly makes me happy and inspires me to be creative and studious and a better me. Stand up for myself. Speak. She makes me feel so strong. It hurts to think that my parents are convinced through constricting me I could be easily changed. My mother texted my friend today "thanks for lying to me. I thought you were a friend of the house" who covered for me the night I got caught this whole commotion stated. I felt so bad for her because she felt so guilty and upset. I couldnt help but cry because of the people I unintentionally involved and hurt in the process of having a few moments with this girl. Everything feels like its crumbling and I cant concentrate on school with my AP exam near. I just try to remind myself this is all temporary...that it' will soon be gone. But I remember that in the summer I do want to see her so that'll cause me to lie more...in an effort to see her. Its a stupid cyclle. I feel like this is all pointless if I feel I'll be forced to lie in the future again..I even have this gps on my phone where they can track me. So to summerize I need advice on the following :
    * How to feel less shitty about lying about talking to her
    * Why I feel connected to her-isnt my fault right that Im experimenting? I havent engaged in physical activity, just sweet kisses.. :slight_smile:
    * How to avoid lying in the future and keep a decent relationship with my family?
    * How to remain somewhat positive?
    Sorry this is SO long and ALL OVER the place...I just try to type everything on my mind before my parents arrive home. This is my only outlet to express myself when they're gone so far. Im so glad I found this website for advice from those experienced and older. THANKS ONCE AGAIN YOUR SUPPORT IS MUCH NEEDED!
     
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    You did not fail yourself or anybody else. Nobody failed in this situation.

    As for your past, I guess it all depends on why. Kids do some crazy stuff, so kissing your female friends doesn't exactly make you gay or anything unless you did it for romantic reasons. Heck, I'm bi and never kissed any of my friends. They'd kiss me and I'd feel so embarrassed; that helped me figure out my sexuality. And sometimes, it just takes the right girl for you to realize what's been going on. Don't be afraid to relax and do a little soul-searching. Think about your romantic and sexual attractions to boys, girls, etc. Then you can look into what kind of sexuality you might have (if you even wanted a label, lot of people just say queer).