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Bisexual Confusion

Discussion in 'Sexual Orientation' started by bigirl912, Jul 31, 2014.

  1. bigirl912

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    Ugh, this is a long one, so thanks in advance to whomever can stick with me through the whole thing. I usually never use forums like this, but I have no bisexual mentors to go to and no therapist at the moment, so I have no idea whom to ask. I thought I'd give the anonymous internet a shot. (If the context/backstory is too long to read, scroll down to the :help: icon to get to the meat of things.)

    So, I'm bisexual. I know that for sure, and I'm out to all but a few family members here and there. And, like, people from high school I don't talk to anymore. But I'm definitely bisexual, and I'm attracted to people who fall more toward the cis-gender end of the gender identity spectrum (very male-identified men and very female-identified women).

    I didn't know I was allowed to call myself bi until about 3 years ago. I had my first female crushes and lesbian sexual experiences in college, but up until that point, I had only dated/been with men. I thought I was just a straight girl who'd hooked up with a couple of girls (often when drunk). When I graduated, I was in a committed relationship with a guy, but I started to realize that my...extreme interest in lesbian movies, lesbian literature, lesbian porn, etc., was more significant than I first thought. I realize now that even as a young girl, I was always fascinated by (and very interested in) the concept of lesbianism. So, after some reading, I decided that even though I was more into guys (i.e., not "50/50") and was in a committed heterosexual relationship at the time, I definitely had some same-sex attractions and thus identified as bi. I tested coming out to my best friends and my boyfriend at the time, and the reactions were all like, "yeah, duh, obviously." LOL.

    Anyway, coming out to myself was huge, but it also made me panic about my relationship - I was sort of terrified that I'd never, ever get to really be with a woman. I wanted women really badly. Luckily, my relationship with the guy wasn't great for all sorts of other reasons, and we broke up about 2 years later (last summer). I immediately got on [a dating site] and was only visible to women. I started going on a lot of dates and started casually seeing some women for a month here, or 3 months there, and so on. The thing is, I never saw any of them as potential long-term girlfriends. I started missing being with guys, even though the connection and sex with girls was incredible.

    I don't WANT to want guys. I honestly wish I was straight-up lesbian--I love the connections with women. Emotionally, it's just so much more satisfying. My problem is that the guys I tend to be attracted to (very masculine) tend to be the kind that are also gender-typed in less appealing ways (emotionally clueless, not thoughtful or others-focused, not feminists). But yet, there's something about a boyfriend--just him being bigger than me, being able to pick me up, be in control, and some of the heteronormative gender dynamics--that I really like (and I feel like SUCH a bad feminist for this). Anyway, while I was seeing women, I started to wonder if I'm bisexual, but hetero-romantic.

    Anyway, I switched to [another dating site] and started seeing guys. It was fun and disappointing in all the ways you'd expect. Not nearly as emotionally satisfying (or sexually, even), but all it did have the fun heterosexual dynamics of seeing a man. There's just something about it I can't explain. I still fantasized about women and went on a few dates with women, but primarily, I was on a heterosexual kick. Ultimately, it was an incredibly mediocre experience. The one guy I liked best totally ghosted me, and the other two I was semi-interested in weren't enough to keep my attention. Then I met E.

    Actually, I've known her for years--we went to college together AND we work together. I knew she was bi and we went to LGBT event sometimes. We'd even dated some of the same women. But we connected on a different level one night, admitted to some feelings for one another, debated the dangers of hooking up (since we work together), and ultimately ended up in bed. It was fun and secret and exciting, and she's the first woman (in my limited experience with women) I saw myself dating. And so eventually, I started referring to her as my girlfriend, we were less secretive around coworkers, etc. We were a thing. I loved being with her--the friendship was great, the sex was great, the lesbian community was amazing, and we had fun EVERY weekend together. Total high. The downside was that she was SO attentive. Not clingy, but after all the guys I had pseudo-dated, I didn't know how to handle that level of communicativeness. And I just felt like something wasn't quite there.

    Since I like stereotypically gender-typed people, I've found the following:
    --With the types of guys I'm attracted to, when I wish they would pick up on something subtle, they usually don't. But when I DON'T want them to pick up on something, it's all good, because they still usually don't.
    --With the girls I'm attracted to, they pick up on things and are so thoughtful and open. But when I don't want them to pick up on things, it's a problem, because they usually do anyway.

    Basically, E and I drifted more toward friendship after a few months. Something romantic was missing--I just couldn't get passed "I really like you" to "I'm in love with you," and I didn't think I would. Right at that time, I met C--a guy.

    C hit me like a lightning bolt and the connection was instant. That's when I really took stock of how lukewarm I had been feeling toward E. Up until then, it was good to be with her, but when I met C, I realized how I could go crazy for someone. I could barely eat, my brain was all fuzzy, the works. We saw each other a couple of times briefly while he was in town, but he lives in the UK, so he's far away now. Meanwhile, E and I had the nicest breakup ever, and we were in total agreement: the friendship was great, the sex was great, but something romantic was missing. We're still good friends.

    C and I have kept up with one another, and I'm planning to visit him in October. At first, it seemed like he hit all of the checkboxes that I like (sexy, sweet, and socially aware) without being a hyper-masculine asshole (maybe he hasn't had all the hyper-masculinization exposure as a European guy). But, getting to know him more, he can be sort of emotionally clueless and sort of thoughtless from time to time. Of course, he's human--we've all got flaws. But now I'm sort of wishing I was seeing a woman, and I find myself missing the girls I've dated (even though I know I don't want to be in a relationship with those girls in particular).

    :help: So, here I am, bisexual and confused as hell. When I'm with a guy, I just want women. I watch all my queer movies, read my lesbian novellas, and fantasize about women. But when I'm with a woman, I feel this pull toward men. Unfortunately, I'm not polyamorous--I think I'd be way too jealous to have that sort of dynamic in my relationship. But am I doomed to always want what I don't have in my current relationship? Will I grow out of this? Since I'm not looking to settle down right at this moment, should I just stop worrying about it for now? But what if I can never have a single lifetime partnership because of this?

    I haven't found a woman than I've felt I can fall in love with, although I really wish I was a lesbian and only wanted women. I WANT so badly to only want women, but it just hasn't been the case. Then again, as far as falling in love, I've been dating males since I was about 15 and have been in love with 3, maybe 4, of them. I've been dating women for less than a year. Could this be an exposure thing, rather than a gender thing?

    Sexually, I can go either way. Honestly, I usually get off way more with women, though sometimes I can be slow to warm up to the situation. Conversely, with men, usually I'm like "I want to jump his bones" at first, but lose interest in sex or am ultimately unsatisfied (unless it's with a very committed partner). But still, there's this je ne sais quoi with men. Am I bisexual, but hetero-romantic? Ugh, I really don't want to be. I should add that drunk, I am so gay. I mean, like most people, horny in general, but really a lot more down with women.

    I don't know if this is about not finding a good fit on a gender basis or on an individual person level. I am so, so confused.

    Thoughts? Advice? Anyone been here before?
     
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    I'm totally new here and trying to figure stuff out, but completely relate to the "wanting what you can't have" thing.

    One thing I will say is this: You seem to have a lot of self-knowledge and be open to what you want. That is DEFINITELY a good thing.

    That said, it sounds like you're starting to really stress that you'll be alone because nothing feels right. And god, do I get that. The idea that you'll be alone because of some inherent dissatisfaction with what you have is saddening and distressing. And confusing, especially because society tells us that we can fall for someone and have that be it.

    Unfortunately, I don't have any great wisdom for you. I can only say that what you're feeling is valid and that - this is something I apply to myself - it's worth scoping out what self-esteem/other issues you have. Because that is often the source of dissatisfaction, too.
     
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    I agree with monalyst :slight_smile:

    Overall people can just give suggestions on what to do, its up to your to do what feels right. You can choose to accept or ignore such suggestions but there will always be people who support you and accept you for who you are
     
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    I can most definitely relate to how you're feeling and gosh, isn't frustrating as hell?! Although, I am very interested in having a polyamorous relationship; the only problem is that, it's really difficult to find two people who'd be okay with the whole situation.

    I feel like I will never be satisfied being with either sex, especially a woman long term. The longest relationship I've ever been in has been with a man (who is also the father of my kids) and sadly, he will never be okay with the whole polyamorous relationship. I've been with him on/off since I was 19 and we've been through a lot together.

    I just thought I'd have everything figured out by now given that I am now 28! Yet, here I am still straddling the fence and torn between being with a man or woman. However, I will admit that I miss women so much that it's killing me! I feel like I'm fighting my feelings for women out of respect for my boyfriend/current relationship. And honestly, I cannot fight my feelings anymore, so I know what needs to be done.

    I'm sorry if I rambled a bit, but just know that you're not alone. Just continue to date both men/women and hopefully you will meet someone who sweeps you off of your feet!
     
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    Ok. Here's what I think. Possibly you haven't found the right person for you. I love my boyfriend. But we have issues sometimes. And I confessed to him about really wanting to be with a woman. He is bi also and totally understood and said he is cool with me having a girlfriend. I am seeing an old girlfriend of mine now. However, it's more a fwb thing. My boyfriend is who I am in a relationship with. You can date two genders if your partner is cool with it. I don't consider it exactly a true polly relationship. Just establish some rules and it should be fine. As far as the drunk thing goes... I have never been with a woman when drinking. Just feels like I would be taking advantage of the situation. No judgement though! :slight_smile: But how do you feel about women sober? That's your true feelings. :slight_smile: Good luck.
     
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    You really nailed it here. Definitely the stress and fear I'm dealing with right now.

    Well, I do appreciate the responses--reading them, as well as other posts in the forum, definitely makes me feel less crazy. I've just been all over the map, but I suppose I'm not the only one. God, I am so not patient, yet it seems like my only course of action (or inaction) is to wait and see. :/
     
  7. Luchel

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    I feel the exact same way. I'm actually in a discovering moment, but I've always felt like guys can't satisfy my emotional expectations in a relationship. The sex is great, that is not a problem for me, but since I've never been with a girl :icon_redf :tears: I can't stop thinking about it.

    Honestly, it feels to me that your problem is not really define which one you prefer, it's a matter of finding the right person, independent from gender. When you're with a girl, and it's not emotionally satisfying you start wondering if maybe a guy would be best for you, and vice versa.

    I also have this really disappointing (to me) need to be the stereotype "girl" of the relationship, even with a girl (I think). I know... As a feminist, I feel very ashamed, but that's me. :icon_redf
     
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    It's tough - I was definitely dreaming about girls for a long time (and still am). I hope you get a chance to have that experience if it's what you feel like you really want/need. Though I can't say it made things clearer for me, given my current state of confusion, at least I figured out I'm bi. That's something. LOL.

    And yeah, so far, maybe it's been an issue of not having the right fit with a person. I just attribute it to the gender, switch directions, then get disappointed and switch back. I don't know. I suppose I'm just laying low with respect to dating right now - I need a break. I mean, I'm sort of lonely and scared I'll never meet the right person, but I think it's better for me to take some time for myself and just be single for a bit.

    ...God, I never thought I'd say that.

    And I so feel you on the feminist thing. :icon_redf
     
  9. Luchel

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    Maybe you're right. Maybe this gender switching is making you anxious, as it may appearing to you that you can never decide (and who says you have to). Maybe being """alone""" for a while might lower the pressure on your relationships.

    About the feminist thing... It's funny, because until I realised there was something different about my sexuality, I really had this (ridiculous) image of lesbians necessarily being manly, and I guess that's why it took me time to understand that I actually desire girls as well as boys, because I couldn't understand how I could be such a girl and feel attracted to them.

    ... It took me longer than I'm proud to admit to get rid of this prejudgement and understand what I was feeling. "Unfortunately" I was, and still am, in the middle of a very serious relationship with a guy, so I never got to try.
     
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    Hahah, yeah, I've met some damn sexy women who look femme (which is what I tend to go for), but who also can take control, ask me out to dinner, push me up against a wall and kiss me, etc. They're out there for sure. I just haven't met the one I'm ready to fall in love with yet. But I have learned that just because the traits of femme and assertive/sometimes dominant don't stereotypically go together doesn't mean there aren't women out there who embody it. Fuck those stereotypes! LOL.

    Gosh, it's so tough when you're in a relationship. I know that feeling. Have you talked to your bf?
     
  11. Luchel

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    Oh my... hahaha


    No and I don't think I can, he is the best person I know and I don't want to hurt him.

    The thing is... I always thought of us being the real deal and being together for good, but, for my "bad luck", we met when I was 18 and "still" "straight" (a lot of quotations marks here hahaha). So now, I still want to be with him, but I'm really frustrated I never got to be with a girl.

    The curiosity just makes me want it even more... :bang: