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can you "turn" gay or are you born that way?

Discussion in 'Sexual Orientation' started by mmminute, Jan 2, 2015.

  1. mmminute

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    It's a pretty stupid question, but I'm really curious!

    Like, did you always know that you liked the same sex, or did you like opposite sex for a long time and all of a sudden realize that you actually liked the same sex?

    FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE READ MY PREVIOUS POSTS, I apologize for talking about this so much, but really... I'm freaked out.. hahaha so I want to know.

    For those who haven't, here it goes (this is also the reason I want to know...) I have ALWAYS liked guys. Like, I have NEVER felt anything (romantically or sexually) for girls. whenever I said "oh, Jennifer Lawrence is my girl-crush" I didn't actually mean it. I admire her, that's it. But I wasn't IN LOVE with her like I was with Leo DiCaprio, Zac Efron, Channing Tatum, etc... but pretty recently my mind has been telling me that I might be gay, which I know that I'm not! but idk. I'm scared. :/

    hahaha anyways, that's why I want to know! Can you TURN gay? or were you always that way??
     
  2. Randomcloud

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    It's complicated but research is telling us that we are BORN with a certain sexual orientation and there are definitely genetic factors.

    However, it may take a while to figure out what that orientation is (eg. being a demi-homoromantic bisexual might be harder for someone to figure out than being strictly attracted to the same sex both sexually and romantically). Sexuality is a spectrum-and really, the labels are not important. You could go your whole life feeling like you're only attracted to guys and then fall for a girl/have a sexual experience with a girl and still feel that you more closely identify as straight (like, Kinsey 1) or bisexual or whatever. It's about how you feel and if you feel like your identity has changed over time, that's just fine.

    (sorry for only giving examples from the gender binary. This applies to everyone!)
     
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    In our culture we don't speak about sex and sexuality much. I practically never heard of same sex relationships until my thirties and because I was looking in YouTube for two women kissing when I discovered that what I was dreaming of since I was 9 yrs old is true and it happens and I can see it in YouTube oh and the dam crack opened LOL.
    I couldn't name or define my feelings but nevertheless no doubt I had them.
     
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    I think were born this way, its just that some of us realise sooner than others. Dont be scared, hun. :slight_smile: Its great that youre learning and exploring your own thoughts and emotions. If I may ask, why are you feeling like you might be gay?
     
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    I think we are born that way .... is is just a matter of self acceptance and when we get rid of the guilt and be come proud of who we are
     
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    This actually helped me somewhat, even though I'm (clearly) not OP. Also, although I'd never heard the term "demi-homoromantic bisexual" before, I think that it might be the term that comes closest to how I feel out of any I've seen so far, especially when it comes to it being "harder for someone to figure out than being strictly attracted to the same sex both sexually and romantically". Yeah. I can definitely agree with you that it can be quite difficult to figure something like that out.
     
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    My 2 cents ( a small amount of U.S. money . . . not worth very much!) is that the labels are more of a problem than the feelings, since they cause confusion. My other 2 cents is that I didn't have a bloody label for myself until I was in my 40's, and remained ignorant and in denial for a while longer.
    We had a dinner table discussion with some friends on New Years Eve about this, and one guy said that he knew he was gay when he was 4 years old, before he even knew what sex was!
    I think it's something we are born with.
     
  8. HunGuy

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    You can't turn gay. For some time I thought I was 'being turned gay/bi' by porn movies I watched, but later I realized the attraction to men has always been part of me. Looking back, there were several events that indicated I was born this way.
     
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    Oh hey look, no one above realizes that there exists no studies that completely rule out changes in sexual orientation that aren't deliberate like natural alterations to brain areas that deals with sexual orientation meaning that there is a 3rd option that rejects born this way for everyone and also rejects choice. And also, there is 0 evidence that sexual orientation is immune from alterations to the area of the brain that influences it. This would mean that it's possible for sexual orientation to change, but it's unlikely and it isn't a choice if it does. So, you can indeed turn gay, but therapy is not gonna do that, but rather fate.

    Hell there is some studies done on fluid sexuality, and they all have indicative evidence that transitional sexual orientation exists. I'm gonna cite it later, not on phone.
     
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  10. mmminute

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    That's the problem! I don't know! :frowning2: a few weeks ago I was completely okay, but then one morning I woke up and thought... "what if I'm gay?" and it terrified me! It gave me anxiety, and I even had anxiety attacks... I know that I don't like girls. I mean, sure, girls are pretty, but I don't want to date one! I like guys. I want to date guys, marry a guy, do the sex with a guy... haha like, I know that I'm straight, but I can't stop thinking about it! It's like... whatever I do, my brain goes "what if that means you're gay?" if I decide not to wear makeup one day my brain immediately goes "you're losing your femininity... it probably means that you're gay" when I don't wear a skirt and decide to wear jeans and a sweater, my brain goes "this isn't feminine... you probably like girls." even though I always wear jeans and a sweater. (also, I know you can like girls and be super feminine, but my brain is just... shit. I'm sorry. I really have no idea what's going on with me right now) and also like... I forgot what normal even is. I'll be replying to a (girl) friend's texts and I'll be smiling, and my brain immediately goes "do you smile like this when talking to girls? It's probably because you like them." or I'll be walking around and I'll notice this girl, not in a "daaamn, she's hot, I'm noticing you because I now have a crush on you" kind of way but in an "you're a person, my eyes look at things sometimes, I looked at you" kind of way. And my brain immediately goes "you like her. that's why you looked at her. You're probably gay" but I'm not?? and I completely forgot if I used to smile when texting before, or walk around and just look at girls... And, I don't know, I'm scared that I might be turning gay.

    I know that there's absolutely nothing wrong with being gay, but I'm not! and my brain is freaking me out, making me think that everything I do is because I'm gay or turning gay.... so I don't know. I don't know what's going on. I don't want to go back to classes feeling this way, because I have bursted out crying when the thoughts get too bad. ugh :frowning2: :frowning2: :frowning2: :bang:
     
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    I used to think that people turned gay from the influences of society, but I was very ignorant at the time. (So ignorant, in fact, that I had no idea that I, myself was gay!) I have had no major influences to have turned me gay. The more I look at my life, the more sense it makes that I've always been gay. I've never been attracted to girls in the slightest.
     
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    I don't believe people can really be turned gay. I just think they realize what gender they are truly attracted to. Like, when I was 11, I thought I liked girls, but whenever I saw a shirtless guy on TV I would lose my mind. I later developed crushes for guys and that's when I realized I was gay. In other words, I think people just find more about who they are.
     
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    I liked the GIRLS for all my life until my first breakup and then I thought maybe it's because I'm gay! And I watch gay porn! And I've imagined myself having sex with older men!

    You can definitely do sexual things with the same gender, but that alone does not turn you gay. If there's any reason for someone to identify as gay, it would be because they have feelings for the same gender.

    Say there's a cute individual walking down the street. Did you choose to think that individual was cute? Or is that just who you're interested to?
     
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    Hm.. well there hasn't been any solid evidence that supports either side, right? So, no one can say for sure. It might also depend on the individual. Some may be born with it but there are others who say that their sexuality changes which might not be true or they're born with a fluid sexuality. I don't even know... I just hope people are born with same sex attraction, at least, so that people can't give them shit for that.
     
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    I think evolution plays tricks on people. Being "born gay" is just as much a flaky theory as is "turning gay". On average, the selective pressure is for attraction to the opposite sex, regardless of how it happens. Don't forget, the brain keeps developing throughout our lives -- it's called learning. Maybe some people become aware of their innate sexuality, which was previously inhibited, while other people change their sexuality.
     
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    Personally, I feel like I've always been gay and nothing caused it. A lot of gay people report feeling that way.

    There's not enough evidence to prove either way.
     
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    From my understanding kids develop a personality by age 5. As a child uou pick the things you enjoy doing and this puts you into a group when certain amounts of activities make you lenient to a gender; for me it was drawing and talking to people, alone I was a weak child but if an adult help me I was brave. Gender specific activities combine with negative and positive events as a child can cause a divergent between gender and sex.

    God made freedom, human made homophobia.
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    This is the same thing as asking do people turn straight or are they born straight .
    I think people are born gay but I think whatever answer we find out about this topic the same thing will apply to being straight or any other sexuality .
     
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    You can only grasp what you know^, try trusting that I suppose, but don't cling to a label unless you're certain :thumbsup: Even then, maybe it's not so great.

    I tried so hard not to think about it when I was younger, but as I got older, boys looked more and more appealing to the point where I just couldn't deny my feelings (ouch, that sounded hopelessly cheesy.) In any case, it kind of pieced together a picture of the weird things I did in my childhood and fit well with how I know my mind worked already.

    That being said, it's probably different for everyone...
     
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    I personally believe that it may be possible to be born a certain sexual orientation. However, I do also think it is possible to maybe be born monosexual and later on become bisexual, polysexual, or pansexual.