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I dont know if im gay or not

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    Hi guys,

    so im suffering because i cant figure out if i am gay or not...
    I guess it will be a long post so feel free to read it or dont.

    I cant remember when it started but as i was younger i always had a feeling that im diffrent. My family and I moved many times so i wasn't really a communicative person and rather be alone than going out with friends. I never thought about the possibility of beeing gay because i never really was into sexuality and stuff like the others in my age. As i grew up i always thought i was straight but i never had a girlfriend in my life (im 18 btw). I have two brothers who had girlfriends all the time so i felt a pressure to get one because even my parents were like: do you have a gf? or: why dont you have a girlfriend? or even : you are so funny and attractive how could it be that you dont have a girlfriend? So i forced myself to get a girlfriend! I felt bad as i had my first date so i stop looking for a girlfriend because it didnt felt right at all ! this was by the age of 15 to 16 i guess! So from that point on i thought maybe im gay? this thought was so scary
    at first that i pushed it away as long as i could! So i lived my life normaly and watched porn for the first time! with 16! It was a straight couple doing all sorts of sex and i didnt enjoyed it much but i cant say that i didnt like it because i wanked to it! I switched to sexy pictures instead of whatching someone doing it because that felt strange. But these pictures were drawn pictures so i dont had to watch a person doing it!
    So i did this every day and after some days i realized that i cant look at me in the mirror!
    everytime i was doing my hair i looked in my eyes and instantly looked away.
    This feels really strange... but i dont know if it has something to do with me or that i dont accept me the way i am... lets keep that in mind and look on something else.
    I mentioned my brothers erlier. one of my brothers kept saying that i m gay and used it as a insult and picked on me every day. e.g i eat a snack and he comes and says homo or gay. i dont know why he kept saying it and thought that i may seem gay to him or just appear to be gay in his eyes. One day he said it at dinner while all my family was listening.
    There was silence for a moment and than my mother said to my brother that its not good to treat your brother i that way!
    (important)she said: Even if he would be gay it would be fine and you have to accept it! Since then i am thinking about it all the time. no mater when, what, where! I wake up and i start thinking about being gay or questioning myself if im gay or not. I think about it in the bathroom, at breakfast, lunch, dinner, while in school, while hanging out with my family. I think about it every second! While im driving the car or playing a game
    or listening to music or even speaking to someone! Even when i do simple stuff like walking. Like bringing the dishes from the dining room to the kitchen. you get what i say. I think about it the whole day! And i think about it since half a year from now.
    It drives me crazy.

    Im sorry for this long thread but i need any help i can get!

    Moving on: I know that it seems like im gay and just denying it! But now comes the real tricky part! I think i was straight because i didnt know anything about being gay. so i grew up thinking that im straight! So i was never really checking out girls like my friends do! I dont look on girls butt or breasts because i presonaly dont want them to feel uncomfortable around me which doesent mean that i m gay just friendly in some way. So i thought: if i dont check out girls am i gay? But gays check out boys! And i never checked out guys! So i checked guys out on purpose! But does this mean that i want to be gay or what? That leaves me with the question: If im checking out guys on purpose am i -Forcing- myself to become gay? So i "tested" myself and wanked to gay porn! It felt the same way as straight porn! Maybe its because i am surrounding my self with gay people (not in reallife) on youtube for instance! I enjoy seeing a gay couple that live their lifes while being overly happy! And i enjoy it seeing them kiss and being happy and i personaly feel good and happy but then this one question bumps right into my head again! Do i make myself watching this to know more about gays or just to learn how
    to handle being gay or do i watch it just for fun or to cheer me up or to know how to be gay? Im not the person which shows his feelings to other persons
    which makes it even harder to judge myself! Maybe i dont know how to feel in certain situations or im just hiding them.
    Right now as im writing this im trying to blink away my tears. One recent video made me feel my feelings. Its a video form The Rhodes Bros where this twins are coming out to their dad via a conversation. I was trembling the whole time and i was almost crying and had a lump in my throught. I am really confused and i know you are too. if you even read
    this far... I am really not spontaneous and a diva in a way! I dont eat everything.. I always plan everything.. I am really overly tiddy..that as a side note.. maybe it helps idk.. One thing remember now is that i dont really love being touched. but i enjoyed it as a kid being together with my brothers and crossing our legs with each other so its nice and warm around us three but they kept pushing me away... (maybe thats just over interprated) Back to the topic: I will graduate the next 4 monthes and i dont consider getting a gf or bf until im graduated because i think you have to spend a lot of time with your partner and let them feel good and not like irrelevant. I guess i will move to my own little flat and beginn studying.

    Im truly sorry for those who have to read this but i cant stand it holding everything back.

    So i think that there is a chance that im gay but im not really sure.
    oh and one big thing i missed is that i loved it to disgues myself as a girl. with the clothes of my mother (i know this is really fucked up) and a wig. So there was a phase where i thought i might be transgender but im pretty sure that it was just for the sake of experience. On that note i also begann to experience my sexuality as i grew up. I did
    several things to make myself go so experienced anal penetration at first with my fingers and moving on to bigger objects like a banana. This was at the time when i watched "straight" porn pics. And this feels really weird! I love it being ****ed and wank
    to it... seems pretty gay to me. But there is a possibility that this is "just" an experience phase where i try everything possible while being straight or my straight "phase" was just an expirience for finding out that im secretly gay? Or am i pretending being straight or even pretending being gay? I dont consider my self being bi sexual because that feels false for me (Please dont take it in a wrong way i mean false in a way i cant imagine it myself being bi [ i rather think i am gay than bi or straight than bi] English is not my native language so im sorry for that aswell). I dont have many friends and there are no gays that i could ask or "compare" or reffere to. And i never gone to a gay clubs due the lack of friends and i dont want my family to think that i am gay while im not or they find out and i am... Well i rather tell them that i am gay than just being busted like that..
    what means busted i... i dont want them to think i am gay if i am not sure! If would be gay i dont think i have a problem telling my mom because she is really supportive! The only problem i think i might have is telling my brother... or probably my stepfather.
    But thats another question. I cant come out if i dont know if i am gay right!
    So i hope you can somehow get the point of all this.
    I cant really tell if i am gay or not.

    It feels akward and great to write everything down.

    I dont know if that covers everything but i think it is good for now.
    If there is anything you want to ask please do so i really appreciate every single one of your comments!

    Thank you sooo much! It really does mean much to me!
     
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    Im not much of a help here but I just wanted you to know that I read your post I really do hope you figure everything out soon buddy. (*hug*)
     
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    Hey left, welcome to EC!

    First thing to do: Calm down, slow down. There is no need to rush to discover your orientation. This is about you and yourself, so take your time, there is no need to freak out. (*hug*)

    Calmly, think about yourself, your attractions, your fantasies. Do it slow, there is no need to rush. Do you feel attracted to men? What about women? Do you imagine yourself in a relationship with a man, woman, or sometimes a man and other times a woman? Do you fantasize about men/women?

    Keep talking to us! :slight_smile:
     
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    Hi

    Sounds like you're going trough a really stressful time at the moment which is totally understandable. Many of us, including myself have gone through what you're experiencing right now and being able to talk about it is something that helped a lot of us trough it.

    The first thing you need to do is to take a deep breath and realise that there's nothing wrong with you. Each and every one of us are unique and that is an awesome thing. If we were all exactly the same, there wouldn't be any interesting and amazing people in the World!

    The second thing you need to realise is that we can't choose our sexuality no matter how hard we try... It's something that is hard wired into us. It's like the colour of your eyes.

    Sexuality, attraction and personality are things that come in many different shapes and forms. It's not always as simple as being either straight or gay, there are many different sexuality types in between and as I've stated above, you are what you are whether you like it or not.

    So let's look at that for a minute. You have straight, you have gay and you have bi which by the sound are the three types you know of. But there's also things like A-sexual, PAN- sexual, Trans-Sexual etc.

    A-sexual is for instance when you're not sexually attracted to anyone. Pan-sexual is when you are attracted to people irrespective of their gender, so that could include anyone from guys to girls, transsexuals etc. Bi-sexual is someone that is attracted to both guys and girls, gay is someone attracted to same sex and straight obviously opposite sex. Transsexual is someone born with a different gender, for example a guy that is supposed to be a girl. There's also cross dressers, people who like to dress in the opposite sex's clothes but who don't feel trapped in the wrong body, and they can identify themselves as straight, bi, gay and a-sexual so there's no rules here. The point that I'm trying to make is that there are many sexualities out there and it's not as simple as trying to brand yourself as straight or gay.

    Attraction or sexuality can also be fluid, meaning that as we mature and grow older our attractions can shift.

    Nothing that you described in your post comes off as you being gay. You mentioned that you're not checking out girls, but by the sound of it neither are you checking out guys. Maybe you're not interested in either sex which might point to you being Asexual. It might also be that you are pan sexual and just haven't met the right person yet, keeping in mind that that person could be a guy, girl or even a transsexual.

    You could also just be straight or just be gay and just haven't reached the point in your life where you are looking at potential partners.

    Either way, realise that you are you and perfect in any and every way, you don't have to identify yourself as this or that, just be yourself and follow your heart.
     
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    Hey guys,
    First of all thank you so much for reading and commenting!
    I realized and learned very much and I will take it easy from now on.
    Many things will become clear by taking my time and just be who I am!
    It really help a lot to speak everything from my mind! I feel a bit confused but I guess that's normal.

    Thank you guys! I really appreciate it!
     
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    Well sorry for a second post in a row but I forgot to ask something...
    I don't know what to do with my family because lately everyone really wants to know my sexuality. They don't put pressure on me but its annoying that I know that they want to know it. But I can't answer that right now so I am pushing it aside and they think or presume except for my brother that I am straight. But I don't want to tell them that I don't know my sexuality. For now everything is possible and everything takes its time.

    Maybe you have some good advice and I thank every one of you!
     
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    Hi

    Don't apologise, it's awesome that you post questions because that is how you start to figure things out!

    If you really feel like you have to come out as something you could always tell them that you're Asexual... Meaning right now you're not interested in either sex. It's not a lie as you're really still figuring things out and they can go google the word, so you don't have to explain the meaning to them. I think that should take the wind out of your brothers sails as there's not much he can make fun of or tease you about and it should give you the space you need to figure things out in your own time.

    When you do meet someone one day you can always say, oops, I've changed my mind and it shouldn't be a huge issue then.

    As I said above, talking about things is an excellent way of figuring things out. I don't know whether you'd be able to go speak to a therapist about it in Germany but having someone that is trained in these things guide you trough it can be a huge step forward. It was for me and I'm 100% sure it will be for you.

    Your Mom seems to be super supportive so why not go to her and tell her that you think you're Asexual because you're not attracted to anyone, that it worries you a lot as you'd like to figure things out and that you'd like to see a professional to help you figure things out. I'm sure she'd support you in that.

    If you're not comfortable asking your mom, can you ask your doctor to refer you to someone in confidentiality...

    You're always welcome to ask questions on here and if you want to you're more than welcome to message me on my profile page. I can't promise you that I have answers, but I'm always willing to lend you and ear and give you some heartfelt advice, that goes for everyone on here.
     
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    Thank you for your fast reply!

    First off telling that I m asexual at this point may slow and calm everything down but could also be taken in a wrong way. I mean that I don't think I could tell them that I might be asexual and than figure it all out and then come out to them. The therapist is a good idea and I consider that as a possibility for me because a therapist is an expert who I can rely on. I think I wont tell my family anything about my sexuality orientation issue by now and figure it out by taking all the time I need.

    Thank you again and I appreciate your kindness!
     
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    I think you've answered your first question!!! That's awesome and a good step forward :thumbsup:
     
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    I'm sorry for asking but I can't seem to figure out which question I answered you mean :wink: maybe its just my reading comprehension!

    Thank you for being nice all the time :wink:
     
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    My last post was a bit dumb sorry I understood it now :slight_smile:
    Haha stupid me !

    @Ditz
    You posted these lines:
    "Either way, realise that you are you and perfect in any and every way, you don't have to identify yourself as this or that, just be yourself and follow your heart"

    I cant stop reading those inspirational lines ! Thank you :wink: !
     
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    In your very first post you wondered whether you should tell your family or not because you don't know whether you are straight or gay... You've answered that in your lsecond last post by deciding to rather wait untill you figured things out, maybe with the help of a therapist which I think is a great idea!

    A therapist helps you to step back and see the bigger picture by listening to what you have to say and then asking you the right questions which will give you a new or different perspective on the things that are going on inside of you. With that insight you will be able to figure things out and get the answers you're looking for. It's an amazing process.

    Just remember that not all therapist are the same so finding one that works for you is important here. In my case, I wasnt comfortable with the first or second therapist I went to see so I kept looking untill I found someone I felt comfortable talking to. She has been totally amazing. I've learned so much about myself.

    I'm happy to help where I can, glad you're finding this helpful! You're definitely on the right track.

    ---------- Post added 1st Feb 2015 at 12:01 AM ----------

    It's my pleasure!!!
     
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    Thank you again for your help!
    I think it helped alot talking about it and I guess I got some useful advices. I will get back to this thread if i found something out or have some questions!

    I really say this too often but I thank everybody!
     
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    Why do you NEED to be "gay" or "straight"???

    This is just a label. You are not a label, you are a person. So....just be a person.

    Don't expect too much from yourself, because you are only human, and you are always changing.

    Just be the best human being you can be. Stop thinking of yourself in terms that society has placed on people.

    You learn and grow and become the best person you can be. Don't let anybody tell you that you cant do something, dont let stupid people get you down.

    If you live to be the best person you can be, does it matter who you are attracted too?
    You dont know what will happen tomorrow. Tomorrow is unforeseen and unknown.
    You could meet someone who knocks you for a loop tomorrow. Does it really matter if its a girl or a guy?

    You don't know what really attracts you, until you meet the right person who attracts you in "that" way.

    Stop over analyzing yourself and just live your life. When you meet the person who will "rock your world", then you will know.
     
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    Thank you Mister Sparkles for your comment!

    This was really interesting and gives a whole new perspective on sexuality.
    I completely agree with you that straight, gay, bi, trans and so on are labels but these can also be guidelines I guess! These labels are made by a society that wants to categorize all peoples without exceptions. But I can't say that putting yourself in one label is bad because it can help you to figure out who you are! Sexuality is very confusing for me and for many others I guess and the fact that sexuality is fluid and can change doesn't make it easier to figure all out. It is nice to have some kind of freedom in sexuality as mister Sparkles said. But my whole life is so confusing and so is my sexual orientation and that's why I find it helpful to have some guidelines.
    On that note I wanted to say that I question myself in that point that I don't think that I am straight anymore. I could be everything but questioning your sexual orientation makes it seem unrealistic to be "fully" straight. And the fact that I am questioning my sexuality the whole time I kind of think because I think about it so often that it is hard to belief that i am straight.
    One thing that made me really sad is that my mother who I thought is so supportive has a pretty linear sight on sexuality. I kind of felt "weak" and unhappy the last few months because I was really confused about my sexuality and now I kind of regained some strength as I informed myself and talked about it. But now my mother noticed that I feel happier and said that she can imagine me finding a girlfriend with my current conditions. This made me quite sad because I don't think I am straight anymore and she really beliefs that I am straight...
    Maybe I am just getting a bit upset and and have a unclear view on it.

    Thank you guys for your continues support!
     
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    Hi Left

    I'm glad to hear that things are starting to make a little sense and sorry to hear about your Mom putting strain on you again.

    When it comes to parents you have to remember that they have dreams for you and that if you're a guy, that would usually include dreams about you finding a girl, getting a good job, settling down, getting married and having children which for them means getting grandchildren. Those are the things they think and believe will make you happy and that's all they really want, for you to be happy.

    Things get confusing for them when the girl gets replaced with a guy and that really messes with their whole dream that they've building for you in their hearts from the day you where born.

    They will have this dream for you untill they are confronted with a different reality and when they are confronted with a different reality it usually takes them a little time to get used to the idea until they can form a new dream for you. You have to remember that for them it's also hard letting go of something they've wanted for you since the day you where born.

    Right now, your mom still has a dream of wife and kids for you and she will have that dream untill she is told otherwise by you... So her dream will only start to change the day you come out to her as what ever your sexuality may be when you figure it out.

    All she really wants is for you to be happy and once she sees that you are happy with someone her dreams will change to include what ever it is that makes you happy.

    So don't stress too much about your moms dreams right now, rather focus on your own journey and what makes you happy!
     
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    Hey mister sparkles,

    I thank you for clearing that up! I wasn't really focused on my moms feelings! Now it makes somewhat more sense to me!

    I know I say thank you too often but I cant say it in other more fitting words!

    It might just be placebo but I think I gain some confidence and strength while talking about important stuff (for me).

    I really appreciate every single help and comment and thank everyone!
     
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    Oh guys,

    Yesterday I did something really unexpected and I never thought I could do that.
    I was alone with my brother for about 3-4hours and we hung out and chilled. And I don't know why but my brother said something about me and gay maybe it was another insult... I don't know how he put it but anyways. I wasn't really thinking and asked him why he thinks or why he is so sure that I am gay. I was shocked about what I said and wanted to say something like nevermind but I couldn't. There was short pause. And then he said something like because you just are. You never had a girlfriend and you shave your whole body. I was stunned at first and changed the subject so he don't thinks that I have orientation issues. I know that this may sound really stupid but my brother Isn't the smartest guy on earth so I can't really rely on him.
    But I don't know what I that means. I know that he doesn't know that have some issues.
    What do you guys think about it?
    And please I'd you have some questions about me or something else please let me know!
     
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    Hey

    Well, it could be that 1) he really is convinced that you are actually gay... or 2) He calling you gay is like calling you a nerd, or a girl or a wimp, in other words just name calling because according to him, you are different than he is.

    Here's the thing, people who call other people names usually do it because they are insecure and try to get the upper hand by talking you down... if they manage to get you to believe or fall for it, they win and feel superior to you. So, don't fall for it, laugh it off... remember they only feel good about it if you feel bad about it so don't give them that satisfaction!

    Don't worry what other people think... people should and do respect you for the person that you are... whether you are straight, bi, gay pink or purple, doesn't matter. It's all about your moral vallues and the respect you have for yourself and others, those qualities are the ones people will take notice of and what they will use to form an opinion of you.

    By what I've read in your posts, you sound like a genuine, smart, nice guy and that's who you are!
     
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    Hey there,

    First off @Ditz thank you for your kind words they mean a lot to me!
    It could be that my brother is convinced and use it as an insult so that would be a mixture of your suggestions 1) and 2).
    I usually laugh it off so he can't feel better by calling me gay.

    One thing is for sure and that makes me kind of happy:
    If I would be gay or anything else I would accept it. If that is the case I can't change myself.
    I am who I am and if I would be gay I would be fine with it!
    So with that In mind I just "need" to find my orientation and live with it!
    I would be happy to find it out soon though because I read many posts were people really suffer for ages and I don't want to.
    I dont know if that's right but are there certain things I could do to find it out easier other than going to a therapist and taking my time?
    Because finding your orientation makes living your life a lot less stressful I presume.

    I love all your continues support!