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  1. Theshreks

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    Hey I'm name is Mark I'm 17 and I need some help. I've been questioning since I was 15. I've never doubted my sexuality before. There was even a girl I liked a lot right before this started happening. Anyway I saw some gay porn and I've been lost ever since.

    I've always had very intense crushes on girls, obsessions almost. I'd get turned on by almost anything with girls. That doesn't happen so much anymore. I've been talking with guys on ****** and it's been going ok. I can think about it and Jack off to it but I don't know if it's a fantasy or not. I'll jack off and what sexual feelings I was feeling toward guys disappear. I look at something that turned before and it'll have no affect after I jack off.

    When I look at things that turn me on my heart starts beating fast and my chest gets tight and it's hurts like a panic attack. I think it's anxiety or something because I was dealing with some weird obsessions before. Death, heaven and hell, conspiracies, the end of the world but not in a normal but they were ruining my life and I couldn't stop thinking about them. And i thought this was one of those but this just won't stop.

    I get turned when I see guys kiss which is weird for me. I don't see myself marrying a guy, sex maybe. I watch porn and think about sucking dick I won't lie. When I talk to girls ( which almost never happens) I just wanna talk and hang out their personalities are cool. Not to say I don't find them sexually attractive because I do but a straight girl can find ass or tits nice. And that bothers me. Do I really like girls or can just tell the cute ones from the not so cute?

    Sorry this a ramble but I'll be more clear if you ask questions.
     
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    It is a possibility that you are straight, but you just get turned on by gay porn. Porn is not your sexuality. I know lesbians on this forum who watch gay porn, and I know straight guys who watch gay porn.

    That bein said, the thing you said about girl's personalities, that makes me think you might be into guys more. Have you considered that you may be bisexual?

    If I can be honest with you, I'm gay and yet somehow, the female form still turns me on physically. I don't want to have sex wih girls, but I do find them extremely beautiful. Men it's the opposite; I don't usually get erections for guys, but I do want to pursue a relationship with one both romantically and sexually. I can't see myself settling down with a girl like I can with a boy. I can appreciate the beauty of the female body, and it seems like you might be the same way.

    You say you can't see yourself with a guy in a relationship right? Then maybe you aren't gay or bisexual. Maybe you are. Try for one day to think of yourself as gay. Go about your normal activities, and reflect on how it made you feel. Do the same with being straight. Pretend that you have no sexual desire whatsoever for whichever sex, Allow yourself to freely check out the other. Which one feels more natural? Maybe this will help you come to a conclusion.
     
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    There are so many reasons as to why people watch the porn they watch. Aside from real sexual attractions, taboo acts could turn you on. I remember being told not to smoke or do drugs so often that one day it occurred to me: what if I did try it? How would it feel?

    Another thing I'd like to point out about porn is that what may seem arousing in porn may not provide the same amount of arousal in reality, which is usually true. Some also think spying on people having sex is arousing (probably true in my case).

    You mentioned that you have anxiety, so I assume that it comes with stress. Careful with using porn as a way to relieve your anxiety because that tells your brain that it's the only way to calm down.

    Porn is also used as a way to fantasize about things that we could never have, which becomes a fantasy. A guy could masturbate to a guy because of he admires his physical perfection, but also not have feelings for guys in real life.

    I think we'd all like to believe that whatever turns us on defines our orientation, however this is not the case. If it helps, put sex aside and imagine who would you date, hold hands, kiss, etc and spend time with? Would you spend more time with guys be because they're you're friends or would you spend time with a guy because you like her?

    Being gay isn't just liking sex with the same gender. If you cannot date or imagine your life with them then that's a problem you need to address. Heterosexual couples dont have sex everyday to define their straightness. I think that's way so many people get confused because they think porn may mean something when it may not at all.
     
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    You've had two quite lengthy answers, I'm not sure what else you're looking for if you haven't even replied to either of them.
     
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    Well I don't have anything to say really.
     
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    Hi, it is not really clear what kind of help you are looking for...

    To me it looks like you anxious with a slightly obsessive issues, which will cause you to over-think and be over anxious with relation to your sexuality.
    Anxiety can also cause you to be "out of tune" with your feelings & emotions an it might make it more difficult to find out your true feelings.

    So, you are curious about guys: take it at face value, and take getting to know yourself one step at a time. It is what it is: curiosity. In itself it does not have to mean anything about your sexuality, you could be straight, bi, or gay, anywhere in between. It will take time to figure things out, and to accept yourself.

    Think about how curious are you: do you want to act on it?
    Sexuality is a spectrum, but it also cannot really 'change' that much: if you are bisexual & decided to experiment with guys, then this will not stop you from liking women and being capable of being involved with them, it will not make you gay.

    The same if you are actually straight , and just curious/have maybe a fetish for being with a guy, it that case experimenting might put things to rest for you.

    On the other hand if you are gay, then not experimenting will not prevent you from being gay, it might only keep you wondering for longer.

    So, what I am trying to say is that, only you can find out your sexuality, and figure it out for yourself. Being curious in itself does not mean much, it just means you are curious!
    Sexuality is flexible, but it also cannot change that much, so you have nothing to loose if you decide to act on your curiosity, & and you could gain some valuable insights into what you like.

    In all cases: don't stress and live your life! Leave the worry about labels till later.
     
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    yeah this is a lot to handle and think about
     
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    i also feel if i'm getting turned on by girls all the time all day then i'm gay, or if i don't notice every feature that's appealing and don't say i like it then i'm gay. yeah it doesn't make a lot sense.
     
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    Hi,

    One of the best things you can do is dump the porn, at least for now. You can't infer anything reliably from porn use.

    Masturbating without porn, if you've always used porn, might take you a while because your brain is used to the stimulus from the porn. But if you instead let the stimulus come from fantasies you create in your brain... you'll have a much more accurate indicator of where your sexual attraction lies.

    If you are talking to guys on hookup apps and masturbating to those conversations and fantasies, thinking about sucking a dick, and so forth... and you *aren't* finding yourself masturbating to fantasies of girls, then your orientation is pretty clear: it's guys that turn you on, which means you're gay or pretty close to gay on the spectrum.

    You mention getting an anxiety response to "things that turn you on" but you don't really say what those things are. Again, if it is guys, then the anxiety is likely because part of you realizes that this means you're more likely to be gay. If it's something else, we'd need to know more.

    The part about wanting to hang out and talk to girls but not finding them very sexually appealing... that's most gay men. A lot of gay men have a gaggle of girls around them but they are just friends; there's no real sexual interest, they just enjoy hanging out with each other.

    So if I were to guess based on what you've said, I'd guess gay, and you're having some anxiety and difficulty accepting that because you don't want to be gay. And that's very normal; I don't think much of anyone who is in the process of accepting him or herself wants to be gay. There's still a lot of stigma around it, discrimination, ignorance and the like. That's what drives the anxiety when most people think about accepting themselves in the early stages.

    Feel free to amplify more what you've said above, or ask additional questions.
     
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    i figured you'd reply sooner or later. yes the anxiety comes the guys and i just don't like it. yeah i don't know why but i can't seem to masturbate to girls anymore. just a year ago i could chat with girls and get turned no problem. I never said I don't find sexually appealing because i do but its like something isn't clicking you know? like i want to date them but something isn't there.

    I don't know how i feel about dating guys. there's definitely a sexual feeling for guys but i don't know about a romantic one. I'm just very lost because this kinda came outta left field. I was very into girls shit right before i liked this girl. that didn't go so well actually. she had a boyfriend or whatever and i was pretty hurt by it. i don't think that's the reason this started happening tho.

    I do chat with guys on ****** and i enjoy it but when i think about it its weird. I'll jack off to gay porn or chat on ****** and think "why are they doing this when they could be fucking girls?" or "Girls are never gonna like me if they find out i do this."

    As I said when i started being homeschooled and pretty staying inside all day i started thinking about weird shit. I thought this was just another one of those and it would end but it hasn't. i'll have times where i feel straight again and everything well be fine but once notice i'm not thinking about it it comes back. Everytime i get horny i check to see how horny i am. I check nipples, heartbeat, if i'm shaking or not to see if i really like it or not.

    I used to get so horny talking to girls but it doesn't work anymore. I don't know how it happened but it did. i feel i shifted to other side somehow and it doesn't make sense to me. How did i have such intense feelings a little over a year ago but nothing now? How have liked girls my whole life and noticed this until now? Where did the sexual come from? are they gone or will they come back?

    This thing happens where i get super horny jack off to some porn or chat and then i won't have homosexual feelings at all for anything. Like it just goes away as soon as i cum. or i'll be feeling anxiety from a picture or video of a guy then if i cum or calm down they feelings are gone and it looks normal again. And guys that used to turn me on don't anymore. i used to use my imagination then i started using porn later.

    I don't want to blame the forum or anything but i didn't start thinking about sucking dick or watching the guy in straight porn until i started this forum. The idea never popped into my head until i read question that asked if someone did. When do get out of the house and i'm not thinking about being gay i don't even look at guys. its hard for this not to be on my mind 24/7 so this rarely happens anymore.

    wow sorry that was a ramble again.

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    i do feel "out of tune" with my feelings, like something is missing or not connecting.

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    in august 2013 which like a year ago, there was this is girl that liked me but i didn't like her. i just wanted her sexually but not romantically at all. not sure if that helps but i thought i'd add it.
     
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    I used to think that I was sexually attracted to girls, but now I just appreciate their bodies in an aesthetic way. Sometimes I will get turned on by girls if I'm watching porn, and it's confusing, but I know that I don't have any real sexual interest in girls like I'm sure I mentioned. I never think about having sex with girls, but I do all the time with guys. I don't see a lot of guys that I think are attractive where I live, and I've only had two crushes.

    I don't really "check out" guys either for the same reason. I never see any hot guys, and it's harder to see things like butts with men's clothing than it is with women's.

    It's really just up to you to discern how you feel towards either sex. To me, like I said it seems like you're gay. You said above that you think "why are they doing this when they could be fucking girls?" I can relate to that to some extent. Sometimes it baffles me why I want to have sex with men and not women. I just have to accept that fact and be happy with it. I am they way I am, and you are the way you are and we can't change it.
     
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    No i do or did find girl's sexually attractive. Like I don't know what it is but sometimes i'll see nude pics of girls and nothing happens sometimes something does. I can say "yeah i'm gay or bi or whatever. I like guys and that's that I accept it." Then i either jack off to make sure that i am (which isn't tha smart) and the feeling goes away and i'm back to worrying. Or it just won't stick and goes away after a couple days. I've accepted it several times over these almost two years but nothing will stick.
     
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    A while ago I thought I was straight up gay, like Kinsey 5 gay. However, my pasts crushes and sexual responses to the girls I have liked told me otherwise. I made out with a girl that I liked a lot and it gave me a boner. The other girl I held hands with also gave me a boner. Both didn't work out because they kept following me like dogs on leashes while I wanted to hangout with my guy friends.

    I've also been attracted to older men, which in itself is a separate issue with my orientation. There are 2 open gay guys at my workplace and one in particular which I find cute because he's chubby. The other one I find much more attractive is also a cubby guy. I'm not sure what it is with bigger men in general but they seem to get my attention lol.
     
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    Well i'm happy you figured that out. I don't know what to do this is all very overwhelming for me.
     
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    Of course it's overwhelming. It's something that you don't consider in a hetero-normative society. The truth is that everyone is different, and being a different orientation is one of the differences that make up a person.

    Chances are, you won't be able to figure this out overnight, but take it a day at a time and keep questioning yourself, because sooner or later you will find an answer that best suits you.
     
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    Yeah I just want to forget about all this honestly. Just live my life without this because I can't stop thinking about it and it ruins my life. It happened before and it ruined my life. Grades, everything I couldn't focus because I was on here checking messages and forum posts.
     
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    You definitely don't want it to be interfering with school. You'll be adding more stress if you didn't do well in a class.

    Speak to a counselor or someone who can help you out. If it's interfering with your everyday life that's when you need outside help.