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Do gay men have sex with women?

Discussion in 'Sexual Orientation' started by elmezaj, Mar 16, 2015.

  1. elmezaj

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    Ive spoken with a few full gay guys. Kinsey scale 6 kind of ppl, wod say they could not get an erection with woman. Is this usual? I recently feel im atracted to some men and its a strange feeling. I cant remember feeling like this before. Ppl who i asked said they already knew when they were in theyre early teen ages. Im 24 this month. And really confued.
    I might be bisexual? I really love women, and i really like to have sex and flirt.
    I did used to cheat almost all my girlfriends, and i never got cought.
    So im a good liar. It might be that im also lying to myself. I did a lot of drugs since i was 16, i only stopped recently. Cant remember having any homoerotic fantasies.
    Im thinking about taking MDMA and going into some kind of gay party to find out what ill do when im not controlling myself.
    I am pretty confused. Im pretty sure some of you might have similar problems.
    Cheers

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    It would be also really nice to find the best kinsey test, maybe one that also contains pictures
     
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    Though some gay guys might have flexible sexualities, for the most part no, gay guys do not have sex with women. They're gay because they're attracted to men and not women.

    If you feel attraction towards men and women you likely are bisexual.

    There are plenty of reasons someone might not know they're bi until they're older. You could have been in denial, but it's also important to remember that sexuality is fluid. You might have been only attracted to women when you were younger, and now you could be attracted to men and women. That is completely possible.
     
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    This is so intresting man. When i was younger i really didnt like gay ppl. Now i think it might have been becouse i felt it familiar.
    Ppl always hate things in other ppl, what they cant accept in themself.
    I love my girlfriend and dont want to loose her, but dont want to fool her also, thats why im asking. Whant to figure this thing out.
    So most gay men cant get an erection with woman?
    I started watching gay porn to check it out, but it was boring, so i forwarded the film and when i see men sucking eachother and doing anal, i started to feel im going to throw up. Even now when i imagine i feel it in my throat.
    So it is pretty cofusing.
    Some days are different, but there are day when i check out mens asses on public trasport, not only womens.
    I feel it pretty interesting, but i am a little bit afraid that i might be unable to fuck woman :grin:
     
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    They can. In homophobic environment, gay men in closet have been going into marriage with a woman and even have children as a way to distract people from their sexual orientation.
    Though. Whether they want to or not is another thing.

    Also, the penis is a very stupidly simple thing. People usually say "man can't get an erection if they don't want it" but the thing is, if you have a healthy penis, just simulating it a bit with anything would get you an erection, even if you are not thinking about sex. Or even if you are not conscious.
     
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    It's definitely not unheard of, though I don't think I ever will, especially since the other night my friends were having straight sex in my friend's apartment and it smelled so bad, literally like fish food. I wanted to throw up, though partly because I was really drunk haha but yeah some gay guys have sex with women out of curiosity, or just because they want to, kinda like how straight men sometimes have sex with other men.
     
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    A gay man could have sex with a woman, but that doesn't make him any less gay unless he enjoyed the experience and that alone made him doubt his orientation. Through psychical stimulation, it is possible to get an erection from a woman even if you're gay, and vice versa.

    A couple weeks ago I had sex with a guy that was way older than me, for experimental purposes. That doens't make me bisexual though, because I do not date guys. It's the same for straight girls who make out with other girls. It doesn't make them a lesbian/bi unless they feel the label represents them the best.
     
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    I did experience love two years ago.
    I don't need mechanic stimulation for an erection.
    And I really enjoy to have sex. Especially to give pleasure to a woman. It makes me really happy and confident.

    Can a family issue, a missing father, or the mothers desire to have a daughter instead a son make someone confused and to question its identity?
     
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    If you think that it has something to do with it, then yes it could be. I've been physically and mentally abused by my father and so my relationship with him is quite distant, despite living in the same household. My attractions to guys revolve a very specific criteria, almost like a all of nothing. If they don't have a masculine/dominant look, then they do nothing for me, and even then it drives my anxiety to the roof. I believe that the abuse from my father has led to my fear behind certain men.

    I've tried to tell myself that I'm gay/bi in the mirror, and even convince myself that I was in denial, but attempt after attempt there was no progress made...

    I've tried to develop a gay/bi identity over the past couple of months but it was driven by anxiety. Maybe I'll have sex with guys from time to time, but I just can't date a guy because I would end up forcing myself. The thought of dating a guy does not feel natural to me.

    Do what feels natural to you, and properly explore these feelings before diving into a relationship.
     
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    Jax12, do you think your father has influenced your sexual orientation in any way? Sorry for going off topic a bit, but I'm very curious about this.
     
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    Some may have sex with a women if they only realise in a opposite sex marriage that they are gay.
    Happens quite often.
     
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    This is not a good idea, and it won't confirm your orientation 'cause you are not really yourself when you are on drugs.

    Feel free to call yourself bisexual, and take it as it comes (no pun intended).
     
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    If you can get a hard on on mdma you're some sort of superhero. But maybe if you felt like you wanted to kiss a guy that would be a good indication you're into guys as well as girls. I don't think drugs are really necessary for this test though

    I think it's possible you don't like gay porn because of some sort of shame or that you're conditioned to think it's gross. I think I did at first but as I became more comfortable being gay in general, so I did with watching gay porn

    Either way I think you're definitely not gay if you like sleeping with girls.. I've slept with girls before but keeping a hard on was hard and no I didn't enjoy it. You're bi at least
     
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    Hardcore porn is also very offputting if you are not into it. Maybe try something lighter? Like yaoi manga/anime? It is usually more emotional and some can even be pretty cute
     
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    Gay guys can have sex with women. All it takes is a "good feeling" down below and you can get an erection. Before I really figured out my sexuality, I was with several women and it felt good, but something always felt "off." I didn't feel completely satisfied the way I do now with guys. I also feel much closer emotionally with guys.

    I guess you could say I'm somewhere in the Kinsey 4 or 5 range? You can be straight and still kind of into guys, there's nothing wrong with having a preference.
     
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    I think it's pretty common for gay men to have had sex with women before, before they realized they are gay. I was the second woman my ex had ever had sex with before he came out to me. I think for him, he appreciated my body aesthetically but not sexually, which confused him for a while. It was physically possible to get an erection, but not as easily and the impression he gave me at one point was that he had to think about men first. I have a similar experience, but slightly different, because I'm pan, where I tend to appreciate men's bodies aesthetically rather than sexually (but women's bodies both ways at the same time), but occasionally a man will catch my interest that way. I hope you figure everything out! Be patient with yourself. *hugs*
     
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    A few drinks should suffice to lower your inhibitions. You don't need the mdma. Why do you want to risk your health or even life with a hard drug? Do you realize that you never really know what adulterants could be present in those tablets? And what would that 'prove'?
     
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    Yeah, I believe it has, and my psychologists thinks it has something to do with it. Not saying that father issues made me gay/bi, but father issues led to my obsessional and anxious thoughts around older men, which in itself may not have anything to do with sexuality at all. However, since I'm emotionally unstable, my needs may have manifested through sexual needs.

    I'm 18 right now, and througout my life I've never had crushes or feelings for my guy friends despite having a mysterious attraction to older men. This alone is puzzling to both me and my psychologist if I were to identify as gay. I've never tried to suppress my thoughts or emotions, in fact I might have explored it through excessive porn usage.
     
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    Okay, so you don't necessarily see your attraction to older men as part of your sexuality then but more as a manifestation of emotional issues? Do you think that if the abuse hadn't happened to you, you wouldn't have this attraction to older men?

    If you think you could've only felt this way towards older men because of the abuse and it's true that traumatic events can't change your sexuality, then you aren't actually sexually attracted to these men but something deeper just manifests itself as a sexual desire of some sort, right?

    I'm trying to figure out if traumatic events with a parent can change your sexuality..
     
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    I have a strange feeling I might have been molested when I was small. I have a little sister in California who I never got to know. My dad can't see her cuz they say he's been molesting her. I can't really believe this and I don't have pure memories ether. So I hope its not true.
    I feel the same way man. I think we should talk about this more. Though I only see my father once a year since I'm 6-8.
    Its like I sense testosterone. Macho type of strong and handsome face men (who I think id like to be like, men who u can recognize in commercials), they make me anxious but also I feel attraction. But I'm not sure about the type of this attraction. Can't tell if its romantic or how someone would feel when looking at they're father or someone they look up to.
    Its confusing bc a boys relationship with his father is also intimate.
    I'm in this state right now I guess. At least I'm going through something similar.
    It doesn't feel natural to me ether. I'll try to let thing happen, and I'm not going to look for anything bc that would be forcing it. I am looking forward to meet someone in person who has similar questions.

    I guess ur right. Thnx, ur advice feels comfortable for me.

    -Sometimes I did feel id like to kiss men, but I was always the same situation. A teacher a friend or a trainer was lecturing me, and I was feeling that if id kiss them that would make them shut up. lol! Maybe I,l have to try it one day with the right person.
    -I asked myself the same thing but not sure yet if my answer was honest.
    My biggest dilemma is that I'm not sure if I'm honest to myself. I'm a good liar so I might as well fool myself I guess. But now it feels exciting not to be sure
    I'm not sure about anything at all, but I hope I'm not exclusively gay bc I really enjoy my don Juan personality. I really like the challenge, and I enjoy the unpredictability of woman.

    I believe my case is 2 or 3 on the scale. Not sure. Also not sure I have to be sure at all.

    I never had an erection while thinking about man. Never had fantasizes either.
    I get hard really fast, girls always take this as a compliment. Haha
    I'm really lucky now. I'm together with a girl for almost a year now (my longest relationship was 6 months before because I always cheated and I had the need for more.
    I really enjoy courting, flirting, wooing, complimenting.. I never failed to keep my affairs secret, but after affairs became a routine I broke up, because I realized I shouldn't do this to her) She is amazing, she is like a second chance or version of my first love.
    I can talk with here about my identity issues, she also feels for girls a little bit. She is clean and open indo mind and in personality. She is really beautiful, smart, and caring. She is also really in love with me so I feel like I hit the jackpot.
    She says she doesn't care I like men also until I love and take care of her. And until I fk her good as I guess I do haha
    I'm feeling guilty because I have a sexual appetite winch motives me to have affairs even while I'm feeling lucky like this. I can separate relationship, living together, love and sex.
    I believe I'm a good lover and I still have to learn a lot, so Id really like to have sex with as many woman as I desire, or maybe with men if ill feel that way one day.
    Thanx for ur support. You seem like a really kind person.

    I tried almost every drug on the markets of Budapest, San Francisco, Vientiane and psytrance festivals. Also do volunteering in harm reduction groups. Been using selling. I'm clean since 2015jan02. I did also try designers bc I wanted to know for my self.
    I am afraid of dirty substances. Even wrote a song few years ago with the title: überraschungs tabletten. Haha.
    I never been to a party like this so I'm afraid if some would come touching and hugging me I would punch them, bc I dont like if they force anything on me.
    I was a virgin till I was 19. I had girlfriends but I didn't like the fact that everyone is forcing me to do it, to get over it. I rejected really nice girls just bc my friends forced them on me in parties. It feels stupid bc I did like a lot of them but I'm stubborn..
    So I feel I need to be more loose for the first time. But I'm not sure I need to participate in a party like this at all. I just thought this might be a solution for my confusion.

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    This is not an easy thing to figure out.
    It is certainly possible, as everything is possible.
    I'm really new but I already love this forum bc I realize a lot of things while writing about my thoughts, memories, feeling and experience. :slight_smile: