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I'm not sexuality attracted to anybody....not even my boyfriend

Discussion in 'Sexual Orientation' started by Fynn, Jul 6, 2015.

  1. Fynn

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    Me and my boyfriend are both ftm. He's pansexual and identify as asexual. I'm afraid it's just because I'm pre everything and don't like my body. Whenever we kiss I feel really dysphoric. We did "it" once but I didn't let him touch me and kept most of my clothes on. Did any of you experience such a thing and did it change?
     
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    it sounds like you might just be asexual...you seem to already identify this way, right? from what i understand asexuals have no sexual attraction or desire to be physical with others. do you enough being with your boyfriend romantically?


    hopefully someone else on here can give you some more advice who's experienced this!
     
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    If he wants it I would give it to him but I probably won't allow him to touch me. I don't even to it for myself bc it disgusts me and I don't feel like I need it. I'd rather go for a walk with him, talk to him, cook with him and cuddle up with some Disney movies .
     
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    Really?

    Well, I'd suggest seeing a therapist. It is extremely, extremely, extremely rare when one is asexual and from what I've read it is usually caused by some type of stress, whether it's ptsd, bad anxiety, depression, etc.. It's just extremely rare to be naturally Asexual. You mentioned that it might be related to self-image. Maybe, that is also a reason you should see a therapist. and do things for yourself to help your self image. like eating healthy, working out, getting in a routine/calorie control. It sounded like you believe that is related.
     
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    You are 17 Hun, no need to rush through life! Sometimes it takes longer to know what you want x
     
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    ^this sounds almost like conversion therapy, Suspector. Asexuality is a real thing and it's not something you should try to 'cure' in any way.

    However, I do agree with one thing: OP should do things for himself to make him feel better.... which everyone should of course...

    OP, sorry if it's a personal question, but do you have problems with self image? That's really common with body dysphoria, of course, I feel you in that case.

    Anyways, my advice is, do what makes you feel comfortable. If sex isn't comfortable for you right now, maybe you should let your boyfriend know?
    Also, time will tell whether you develop more sexual attraction when you have the right hormones in your body.

    All the best
     
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    Huh conversion therapy?



    Do you even know what conversion therapy is? and care to explain in which way what I said was conversion therapy? I've noticed you replied to my comments before, exaggerating what I have said. Nothing new I guess. Either way you are wrong, and you didn't listen to what the OP said. Also, you don't realize that many gays for example, classify themselves as asexual because they are traumatized from their straight oriented upbringing, or whichever reason. People who get raped as well, may classify as asexual. In this case, I suggested to the OP that if he believes something with his self-image is related to his sexual response then he should see a therapist. " I identify as asexual. I'm afraid it's just because I'm pre everything and don't like my body." She should see a therapist regardless if it is the reason for her

    Lastly, do yourself a favor and do not reply to my posts anymore.
     
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    Suspector, you have given advice that people ought to watch porn to check their orientation. Sometimes your advice needs a bit of polishing if it's not to be damaging.

    I have reported this. Please don't soil this thread.
     
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    While the last response was a bit on the attacking side, the actual information Suspector provided to the OP is pretty much on the mark.

    It's important, when we're talking about asexuality, to realize there are two completely different definitions of the word.

    One definition is recognized, widely accepted, grounded in research, and has been in use for decades.

    The other is grounded in crowdsourced groupthink, has absolutely no credible research or scientific basis behind it, can essentially mean anything depending on who you ask, and is used only by a tiny community. This definition is not in use by anyone other than this small group.

    The commonly used definition of asexual refers to a hardwired orientation. For people who are asexual according to this definition, it is a lifelong, unchangeable condition. These people do not feel any sexual attraction whatsoever, but they also don't have revulsion toward sex, refuse to be touched, or have any negative connotations with is. The "a" in "asexual" is a Latin prefix that means "without." People who are using the term "asexual" in the context of the widely used, accepted definition simply have zero interest in sex and don't feel arousal except the involuntary, mechanical arousal that comes from stimulation.

    The description that you give does not meet the widely accepted definition of asexual, and Suspector is correct: what you're experiencing is clearly not asexual in that context. It does sound a lot more like a psychological issue that may well be arising from trauma, family-of-origin issues, extreme anxiety, extreme shame and body image issues, or some combination of those. Since all of those things are psychological, non-hardwired, and changeable, what you describe is not asexual according to the widely accepted definition.

    Further, Suspector is also correct on the idea of therapy: Based on what you have described, it's highly likely that with therapy, all of the symptoms you're describing (including the low or nonexistent sex drive) would resolve themselves. You are, based on your description, almost certainly not asexual if we are using the widely accepted definition, and the situation you have is almost certainly one that can be resolved with appropriate therapy.

    One of the problems with people who have adopted the unsupported/alternative/groupthink-defined definition of asexuality is that many of them tend to get highly offended if anyone remotely suggests that what is going on for someone isn't asexuality. Unfortunately, it is that advice/idea/argument that is harmful to people.

    If the information someone offers to anyone else is to have any validity, and is truly meant for the individual rather than to justify the feelings of the advice-giver, then it should be able to stand up to scrutiny and thoughtful analysis. One thing that absolutely is not in dispute (except possibly by this fringe group): We are hardwired for connection, and emotional and physical closeness is a significant part of why we are here. In the OP's case, it makes a lot more sense to consider and rule out the idea of a psychological origin for the issue than it does to simply accept that this is the way one is and one must go through life pushing away anyone that offers closeness and intimacy.
     
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    I feel a need to Chip in here, since I do not like being picked on. And I might add that I am very disappointed.

    It seems my contribution to this thread has gone amiss. OP, feel free to take whatever advice anyone has given and please ignore any pointless fighting. I apologize that my post derailed the thread (though I do not and will never blame myself for it.)

    All the best
     
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    Are you sure you are not thinking of hyposexual? Or something like that? Because people repurposing words is not an attack on a medical definition. It's like how we as a community have used "queer" to mean "LGB+", and such. This is just like someone saying: "You shouldn't say that you are queer, because queer actually means 'strange', and you are hijacking our literary heritage.' TBH, people can take offense from what you are saying, and I think people have.
     
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    No, I'm not thinking of hyposexual; that's a different condition with low (but not nonexistent) sex drive. Again, that's if we're using the widely accepted definition rather than one that a small group has redefined to its own liking.

    As far as the word "queer"... it's not a word I use, not because it's hijacking literary heritage, but because the definition of the word is, in fact, "strange or odd" and I personally don't define myself that way... though anyone else who wishes to is more than welcomed to do so.

    No offense is intended. As I've said before, if words, particularly words associated with psychological issues, are to have any meaning, there needs to be agreement on what they mean. If I and a few thousand people decide that a gallon of water is 64 ounces... we can decide that, call 64 ounces a gallon, and we can try and propagate that definition... but if the other 300 million people, including those who use those terms professionally, believe that "gallon" means 128 ounces... we don't accomplish much by trying to redefine a word that already has a definition that's been in use for decades.

    Same applies here.

    People are welcomed to create whatever definitions they wish, but they don't have the right to try to force those who are using those words the way they have always been used to stop using them that way.
     
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    Seriously... I'm just wow... Stop mouth-jabbing. And live and let live. I didn't expect to have to go down to that level, but fine. Cut it out. Stop continuing to derail the thread. It's just not the mature thing to do.
     
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    1) Errr... can we please calm down? I'm not even sure why this whole debacle even started.

    2) I've never experienced anything close to what is happening to you, Fynn, but I do want to help. Going to a therapist like Suspector said is probably a good idea for your body image and may help you with your dilemma! :grin:
     
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    Becki, with respect, post or don't post, but you are not a forum moderator. Please leave that job to the staff team.
     
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    Fine. I shall not post further.