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  1. bcurious26

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    Hi everyone. This is my issue. When it comes to relationships I can only picture myself with a women. Thing is I fantasize about sex with men a lot. Even have had a couple encounters with men. Its been like this for a couple years and would like to hear what your opinions are.
     
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    You sound like you are your orientation here, bi-curious :slight_smile: That or bisexual heteroromantic works fine!
     
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    I've thought about being bi. I mean I like girls both physically and emotionaly, but with guys I never felt an emotional connection, just physical. I'm still in the closet about liking sex with men to. What gets me is if I'm sexualy attracted to both, how come all my fantasies are just with other men and not women?
     
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    It may be that you're not letting yourself be romantically attracted to men. Could that be a possibility?

    In order to determine whether it could play a role, you might want to answer these questions for yourself (you don't need to answer them here if you don't want to):
    1. Do you feel ashamed/embarrassed about liking guys sexually?
    2. Do you feel that you should be straight? As in, do you feel you shouldn't like guys sexually?

    Give it some time and try to answer these questions honestly for yourself. =)

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    I think sexuality is fluid. People like who they like, and there should be no need for labels.

    Romantic attraction is probably even less likely to be static. Maybe the reason you don't feel an emotional connection to guys is you're still not yet comfortable with that. Or it could just be a genuine preference.. Only time will tell.

    Personally, I'd find it immesurably easier to get emotionally intimate with guys, because we could easily relate to each other as a consequence of both of us being guys. Not to mention I would not feel obligated to act masculine, strong or stoic all the time and enjoy a degree of emotional support without coming off as weak or unreliable.

    As for most of your fantasies being about guys, maybe that's because male / male relationships are taboo. Or you may simply be feeling a greater amount of sexual desire for guys than females.
     
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    I've been asked those questions before and thought about then for quite a while. While I do like having sexual encounters with men, I do feel like in the back of my mind thinking I'm doing something wrong. Happens every time. Kinda like a two sided coin. And for the second question, I've always wanted to marry a women. Never got these urges till I was out of school. I. Just so confused its eating at me.
     
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    Why would you feel that way? Unless you are a religious person who believes homosexuality is a sin, there is absolutely no reason to think of it as something "wrong".

    I'd say You Live Only Once, but I don't believe that so I'll just say maybe you should accept your desires and enjoy yourself. Only religious people have to concern themselves with "right" and "wrong" regarding homosexuality.
     
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    I'm not a big religious person. Idk why I get that feeling. It's what goes through my head when I'm on my way to a guys house and on my way home. When I'm with a guy tho I have fun. Don't even think about anything else. So idk I think I'm doing something wrong or something.
     
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    "Not a big religious person" tells me you are at least a little bit religious. If that's true, you could try to make a decision regarding this issue instead of feeling conflicted. You could either abandon religion completely, you can only try to stop thinking of homosexuality as something "wrong" or "sinful", or you can abandon homosexuality itself.

    Any choice is better than none.

    I used to be religious myself, until I discovered a website called Law of One. I still believe in the Creator, but I no longer believe in wrong, "unnatural" or sinful acts. I no longer feel guilty for my previously forbidden "homosexual lust". If you want to have sex with guys, maybe you should just accept that part of yourself instead of trying to supress it.

    "Nothing shall be overcome"
     
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    When it comes to religion, I believe in a god(a creator). I have no I'll will to anyone of any sexuallity. That's why I don't understand why I think those thoughts. I like sexual encounters with guys. Like feeling like there in control of me. I just don't know were those thoughts come from.
     
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    There is a phrase I found on this forum, which is "internalized homophobia"

    There is still an immense amount of religious or irrational contempt directed at "sexual deviants". I don't know if that is ever going to change, but maybe your problem is that you have internalized some of that contempt toward homosexuality. As for the solution, I think it simply boils down to self-acceptance.
     
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    Maybe. I mean ill say it here that I like sex with guys. I have no problem telling myself that. Maybe its some people from my past or how I was raised that's making me think that
     
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    I second this. It is all too common.

    Try to imagine you're looking at a bisexual/bi-curious man. You have no ill will toward him. Then imagine him changing shape into you.

    "Treat others as you would want to be treated" can go both ways - "Treat yourself as well as you would treat someone in a similar position, and be good to yourself."
     
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    I have no problem accepting that I like sex with guys. Maybe its the fact that out of my dads side of the family there's only me to carry on our name. All my siblings and cousins are girls and I'm the only guy
     
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    I am also the only person who can carry on my family name, something which I could not care any less about. Possibly with the exception of rich and royal families, I can hardly think of something that is as profoundly meaningless as "family name".

    My parents don't feel the same way. Let alone my sexual "deviances", they don't even know that I have abandoned their religion almost a year ago.
     
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    Yeah. My mom keeps going on that I gotta get married and have grandkids to keep the name on. She says it jokingly but maybe that's y I get the feeling of doing something wrong
     
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    Yup, I can relate to that *sigh*.... I'm not as worried about the family name part as the having kids part though. :dry:
     
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    Parents have a tendency to force, guilt and shame their offspring into doing what they want. For the sake of their children ( ! ), of course.

    I've been slowly realizing that my family does not really have my best interests in mind. They may think that they do, but it's not even close.
     
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    I get that a lot, but now I just focus on making myself happy. I don't live by my family members standards just to make them happy. My happiness is important as well, so as selfish as it may sound, it's my life and I wish to live it the way I want it.

    You could identify as straight with homoerotic tendencies, bicurious, or bisexual! But try not to think of labels as boxes, but rather a position on the sexuality continuum.
     
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    What you are describing is what nearly every gay guy goes through as they begin to process the idea that they may not be straight.

    In processing any loss (in this case, loss of perception of being straight), there are stages we go through: denial-anger-bargaining-grief-acceptance.

    Most gay men in early stages first acknowledge attraction to men, and enjoying sex with men, but reject the idea that they could be gay as "they've always seen themselves as having a life with a woman." This is entirely normal and part of denial.

    Add to that the guilt from family members about carrying on the family name and... it makes it that much more difficult to accept who you are.

    So I think in your case it's safe to say that you probably aren't completely straight. The "bi-curious" label is a transitional one; almost nobody holds onto that label over time.

    As to whether you're bi or gay... that is a question only you can answer. Sexual orientation is a spectrum and not a binary or trinary, so the truth is that most people are somewhere on the spectrum rather than 100% gay or straight... but the majority of people tend to cluster at one end or the other, and someone who might have a small attraction toward opposite sex might, out of convenience, still identify as gay.

    Many people also, during the "bargaining" phase, identify as bisexual, not because they truly have opposite-sex attraction, but because they aren't ready to give up the idea they could still have their fairy tale life with the wife, house with picket fence, and 2.3 children. :slight_smile: Most of these later go on to identify as gay.

    That isn't to say that bisexuality isn't real and there aren't people who are genuinely bisexual... most certainly there are. But most people who are bisexual do, in fact, have strong attractions for men and for women.

    I suggest not considering the 100000000 unrecognized labels that have popped up over the past few years. For one thing, there's zero credible evidence among credible researchers, clinicians, or those who work with these populations to indicate that there's any validity to these labels, and for another, the majority of people who identify with unrecognized labels do eventually figure out that the fit into one of the established, validated categories.

    For you to figure out where you are on the spectrum will likely take some time. That's fine... there's no rush. What often helps is to look at where your eyes go when you're not paying attention... do they wander toward guys, girls, or both? And masturbating without porn can also be a good indicator... trying, in separate sessions, thinking only about guys, then only about girls, and then letting your mind wander and seeing where it goes on its own. Usually after doing this a few times, it's pretty obvious where your hardwired attraction lies because one set of fantasies will be much stronger than the other (unless, as is less common, that you're truly bisexual.)

    I hope this helps!