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Why do I do it?

Discussion in 'Sexual Orientation' started by Nefer, Oct 15, 2015.

  1. Nefer

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    I am a woman mainly attracted to men. Although I cannot say, if I was given an opportunity of having sex with a women, if I would refuse it. I think, I would try it. In my fantasies I have always been a man having sex with a woman. Its always been that way, ever since I remember. Until recently, as something changed. To my great suprise I started watching gay oriented movies and gay porn. I do not watch porn in general. I find hetero porn not interesting on the edge of being repulsive. In my opinion its downgrading to women. Lesbian porn doesnt turn me on either. I found out, I absolutely adore to watch men relationships. That includes them having great time as buddies, kissing, cuddling and having sex. I find the sex scenes very arousing, much more than porn. Where I am in this all? I imagine myself being one of those guys. In life, I am in relationship with a man. My fantasies never bothered me too much. I just thought to myself: " Oh, well, I have fantasies about being a man with a woman. Its still hetero, so its fine." Why am I so interested in men to men relationships. And now it bugs me, why am I always a man in all those dreams all my life? I do not have a clue why. I found this website very informative and helpful. I do not want to appear as some weird woman who doesnt know what she wants. I am awfully sorry, if that sounds like it. I just need some answers and feedback from you guys on this website. You might have come across something similar in your experience.
     
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    I forgot to mention in my above post, I had a crush on a woman few years ago. I even went through the effort and befriended her. I wouldnt normally do that, as I am quite introvert. She used to come to the place I worked for some advice. I really liked, meaning fancied her and thought she might be lesbian. But after a while, it turned out she wasn't. At least that's what I assumed. I lost contact with her. She moved out of town. Few times I even considered attempts to meet a woman from this group, but my town is small. I didn't even know where and how to start. So I burried it for another few years. And that's where I am. Don't know if it matters, I have an identical twin sister. We have been close emotionally whole our lives. She has the same fantasies as I do. We create our own worlds between ourselves in the form of RPG. Its more of a theater of improvisation. Talking only. Nothing else. I do prefer to be the male characters, although we share them. We have homo and hetero relationships in that RPGs. Its easy to do it with her, as we know each other better than anybody else ever would. She is my whole world and I am hers. Nobody else knows about it. I would be absolutely ashamed to share it with anyone.

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    My questions are, why do we do all those things? Is it normal behaviour?
     
  3. HardToSay

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    Hi there, you are ok, there is nothing wrong with how you feel, many feel taht way.

    It could be that you are like me but reversed, i.e. you were born female, unlike me. It could be that you are trans, but you are afraid that being trans would mean that you would have to sleep with women, and at the moment that would make you a lesbian.

    Then, after seing gay guys, you know you can be a man and be with a man, and that at the moment would make you straight. Now that you are safe feeling straight you are in a better spot in order to not only feel like a guy but also being attracted to Girls.

    Just m .02 USD.

    Take care
     
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    Hi there,
    I am so grateful for your response. I actually had to read it twice to gather what you meant. It makes perfect sense to me: -). I googled genderqueer. It seems to be an umbrella term for different kinds: bigender, teigender, pangender, gender free. Personally, I do not think any label is needed to be stuck on people to identify their gender or sexual preference, but human beings as we all are, like to categorise things around us. So let it be. As to my gender identity, I still think its male, as to sexual orientation, its both. But what's the most important to me is the assertion of my behaviour being not wrong. It gives me peace of mind. Once again, thank you for your helpful post. What I decide to do with my gender is perhaps a matter for the future. I know, I need to understand myself better.
     
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    Hey there.

    Liking m/m porn does not signify much about your orientation or gender. People like all kinds of porn for all kinds of reasons, but I know hundreds of straight and lesbian women that strictly watch or read m/m porn and erotica. Do those women want to be men? No. In the case of lesbians, they don't even want to SLEEP with men.

    There are many reasons why someone would like m/m porn. Here are just a few: straight women like men, and two men is often better than one. They like the romance of m/m erotica written by women. They want to watch/read kinky material but not feel like it is degrading women. Etc.

    I'm not as clear on why lesbians like it, but my guess is that the second and third reasons could still apply. There are many other reasons of which I'm unaware, for both straight and queer women.

    Now, this is not to say you aren't genderqueer. Only you can answer that.

    But just to let you know that m/m porn is enjoyed by many who are not gay men and who do not want to be men.
     
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    CapColors - you raise a good point that porn is not a reliable indicator of sexuality or gender. But that said, I think Nefer has clearly stated several times that she also fantasizes about herself having sex and relationships as a man. That is significant.

    Nefer - The fantasies that you have of being a man are natural and fairly common. It's okay. And it's up to you to figure out exactly what those mean for you and if there are changes you would like to make to your life and/or your body that would make you more comfortable. These can range from accepting that you are gender-queer and wearing a little more men's clothing because you enjoy it to transitioning to male. You may also want to consider either coming out to the man you are in a relationship with as gender-queer, or consider trying to find a man (or woman) to date that is open and accepting (and perhaps turned on by) your gender-queerness.

    I myself am a bit gender queer - I usually enjoy and am fairly comfortable with my body, but I also have moments where I feel very feminine, wish I had a more feminine/female body, and/or wish I could have sex as a woman. I am currently dating a wonderful women who is bisexual and genderqueer in a similar (but opposite) way. We have sex that sometimes feels straight, sometimes gay-male, and sometimes lesbian. It's quite wonderful, and we both find that we are much more satisfied emotionally and sexually by our ability to share the full range of our gender expression with each other. So such relationships are possible, even in the rural area we live in.

    I hope this helps. Good luck :slight_smile:
     
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    QBear and CapColors thank you both for your replies. I am really glad to come across this website. Its all very new to me. I feel a bit like shame and burying myself in the sand whenever I log in here to see responses. I always kind of lived in my fantasy worlds rather than real, being a lot happier there than in real one. A bit sad, true. I felt very uncomfortable with my fantasies, regarding them as wrong, something I can never reveal to anybody, except my twin sister. In fact, when we were a lot younger (highschool), she used to dress as a man. I never had the courage. As to relations in reality, I have never slept with a woman, but I do know I did have this serious crush on one mentioned above. Otherwise, I can only tell by looking at women or men. I do like very feminine women, as to men - to look and act feminine. I am not attracted to masculine men at all.
    Starting to watch m/m romance movies was like a breaking point that something is not quite right with me. If only the world could be understanding and acceptive of all these differences and variations from what's perceived " normal", it would certainly be a better world. Thanks to this website, you people, and addressing the issue, I can feel a bit better about myself.
     
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    QBear, I agree with you that wanting to feel like a man can mean a host of different things. One thing you didn't mention is simply being a lesbian. Sue Baloo on this site once said that she had some gender confusion until she came out as a lesbian. She was then like: OH. I wanted to be lesbian, not a man. [paraphrased from memory]
     
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