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"Everyone is bi" is biphobic or am i overthinking?

Discussion in 'Sexual Orientation' started by pastaplease, Dec 27, 2015.

  1. pastaplease

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    Hey, new member here.

    I'm bi and I get annoyed/ slightly offended whenever I see or hear people saying that "everyone is bi" or that "everyone is bicurious". Is this biphobic or am I just overreacting or thinking that is it?

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    Well. Next time someone says that, please ask them how they know. Because, if its true, that is wonderful news indeed. Did they ask all seven billion people on earth, or just do a random sample?
     
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    It's definitely presumptuous, for one thing. For those who aren't bisexual. And diminishes the validity of those who are. Maybe it's closer to bi-erasure? Whatever the case, sweeping statements like this are simply wrong.

    [Welcome to EC pastaplease. ]
     
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    I heard that one before. When I told my brother I am bi he was like every girl is bi. No that ain't true
     
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    I'm sure it is possible for a heterosexual to have thought of something that may be feelings nof the same sex and that the vice versa nhas happened. Just because it did to some people doesn't mean they truely are bi. Not everyone is 100% either way, but no not everyone is bi at all.
     
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    It's hard for me to see how this would be offensive but even harder to see what it actually means.

    Sure, in some sense that may very well be true if "everyone" means "large percentage of people" and "bi" means potential to "romantic and erotic feelings towards members of the same sex".

    In Roman and Greek times same sex relations were relatively common among middle class and upper class men. These relationships were more of extended friendship or mentoring rather than pure sexual or romantic relationships. However, it was the norm that both men would eventually marry a woman and found a family. Also, some Greek city states, with standing armies, (most prominently Sparta) encouraged homo-romantic and sexual relations between fighting pairs to boost morale.

    More recent examples include sex segregated environments such as boarding schools, prisons and some islamic countries see wide spread homosexual behavior which ceases when the sex segregation is removed. A recent study from South African prisons found that up to 50% of the inmates had engaged in sex with the same sex. Same figure among Iranian university students was up to something like 25% of women and 16% of men.

    However, the behavior above is highly situational and most of those people would prefer sex with the opposite sex if it was possible.
     
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    In most contexts I hear it, it sounds patronising, belittling one's experience. Bisexual doesn't mean "not 100% straight". It means actually wanting sex with two opposite genders, by definition. Social label "bisexual" doesn't apply to "being 95% straight". So, I don't like such statements indeed.
     
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    Hi :3
    I am bisexual and know exactly where you're coming from.

    A lot of people say that being bisexual can be liking 95% another gender and 5% the same but wouldn't that make you more heteroflexible? Or 95% yours and 5% another make you homoflexible?

    It's a very controversial subject and many different people have different opinions.
     
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    By definition, It's also homophobic.
     
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    Its possible for everyone to be bicurious, as most if not all humans have at least had thoughts. But, I wouldn't say everyone is bi. I know many men and women, who would never be intimate with the same sex or opposite sex as thats just not who they are.
     
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    And for the record, people can be 100% gay, it's just uncommon- considering the term is defined as "Doesn't want to have sex, kiss, or seriously date the opposite sex, including in fantasies". And no, finding the opposite sex good looking or enjoying them in porn does not subtract from the 100 percentage.
     
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    I agree, the percentage of bisexuals in the U.S. is actually about 1.8 percent (I don't know about other places though), but obviously by that logic, we are pretty small. I feel like that is a sweeping statement to tell bisexuals, don't over react about discovering your sexuality because everyone is a little gay anyway. And I understand some have good intentions like telling bisexuals, don't worry you're not alone, but they don't realize it's kind of a sweeping statement.
     
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    No, not everyone (if only!), and I can definitely see how a bi woman would be more than a little bothered by the idea, considering your sexual orientations have been erased for much of history. Bisexual women have high chances of being sexually assaulted, for one. It basically plays into the idea that women's desires are subject to their environment, and there to please others.

    You get crap from lesbians, because they don't trust you, and treated like a threesome partner by the guys, who believe they can "cure" any woman who agrees to sleep with them. I think you see more openly bisexual women than men, but considering the disadvantages, I'm not so envious anymore.

    Now, less people are "100%" one way or another, but most do strongly identify as straight or gay. I think it's more palatable for society to divide folk into opposing sides than to realize there are many shades of color, and that the divide between the two camps is smaller than previously thought (or non-existent).

    A very threatening thought.
     
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    This makes sense and is probably why it bothers me a little, as it feels like people are telling me that I don't exist, as everyone has those feelings. It can take time to figure out who you are or what you identify as, and I suppose when someone tells you everyone is like that it makes me feel like I'm just making a big deal out of it.

    Thanks for all the replies!