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Am I gay? Straight? Or just acting?

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  1. FreshApple

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    Hi all, I've been reading a lot here which already helped but I think I need to share my story and hope for some support how to approach this. Maybe writing a this makes it more clear for me too.

    So I'm 28 years old and have always been single. I never really paid attention to a relationship or people in general. Never felt in love. 5 years ago I moved out of my parents house and since then I'm on this emotional rollercoaster which is at it's highest point right now..

    My question simply is: who am I and what do I like.

    1. During high school(being 13~16 y/old) I liked to look at one guy, didn't have any sexual feelings but in the changing rooms and during lunch break I had this natural attraction to him. In my memory I still do.
    Later one of my friends told me that someone asked if I was gay, my friend said no and that I was just acting(I was in a musical group and liked acting like I was someone else). Funny enough about 60% of that group turned out gay 10 years later.


    2. During my apprenticeship(being 16~23 y/old) I attended an almost all-guys school(as not many girls are in engineering). I again liked one guy but never really paid attention to it. Funny enough, and I really don't know why, but my friends again asked if I was gay, I said No! I really don't behave like a 'typical' gay guy(although I liked to watch when someone leaned over:lol:slight_smile:. So one evening they got me really, really drunk and they asked me again "are you gay?". I said no. So they asked me again: "are you straight?" and as all drunk guys are honest I said "I don't know".

    Still I did not experience any sexual or intimate feelings or felt being in love and while "letting off some steam" I cannot remember I ever fantasised about guys/girls and was certainly not interested in porn.


    3. 5 years ago I moved out of my parents house to a new environment to get a job. This is where my emotional rollercoaster started. I suddenly felt the need to love someone, have physical contact, sex and not being alone anymore.

    So there is this girl I know for 14 years already and two years ago we were both single again, craving to get physical so we had sex several occasions. I was able to get aroused by the idea and perform to satisfy both until we decided to stop and continue as just friends. I did not feel an emotional connection. We still are friends and for some reason we have this connection that we cannot get angry at each other. I do notice that every time we talk I start flirting...

    When a nice looking guy walks by I do feel the urge to look at him for a split second. This happens a lot less to girls. My friends say I have this weird taste for girls(too picky). When I like the look or behaviour of a girl, my friends sometimes tell me they look like a boy. I do understand the concept of what is "a nice looking girl" and what features make her beautiful in the eyes of my friends.

    Writing all this down makes me feel so stressed right now. My Hands are shaking and really feel sick. :confused:


    So to get answers who I really am, I met a guy on ****** last year. We talk for 4 months already and will meet on Tuesday to have some dinner in a cafe. But for some reason I do not feel comfortable. I know the guy is not a creep as I have seen pictures, know where he works and they way he responds I don't get the feeling he is looking for just sex.


    Trying to organise my head makes things worse and confusing:
    Do I really want this? Do I really like guys? What if others find out? Is it just a phase or fantasy? Am I just acting like I want to be gay just to get answers? What if I tell others I am into guys but it turns out not to be?

    I am "acting" like a straight guy for 28 years already and never expressed my doubts to anyone.
    Did any one of you discover these feelings late and had/has similar confusions?

    Feeling so depressed and afraid right now.. :icon_sad:
     
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    Hi, similar me.

    1º - Do you know the sexuality spectrum? It's like a graph where you point what you feel like yourself. I mean, for me would be like this:

    01. I am sexually attracted to men
    a. Hunks; muscular
    b. Bears
    c. Average

    02. I am romantically attracted men, sometimes women
    a. Cute guys
    b. Kind guys
    c. Kind girls with similar interests

    So, what do you feel? I found my own, but has not been easy until I understand that there's so many types of feelings. In my opinion, I consider myself gay because of sexual attraction to men from a long time. But labeling yourself may be so stressful, it's not even necessary. You have to focus on what you want to do at that moment. Sometimes people are curious, but that doesn't mean they are gay or lesbian.

    I was acting straight to the closest ones until now. I lived my entire life believe that there is a problem with me. It is not, the problem is homophobia. It's the hate that people like us may receive just because of that.

    You are into guys, sincerely, they turn you on? I've seen people that are afraid becoming gay, and that that thought won't disappear from their minds and they are not even sexually attracted to the same sex. It could be OCD, that paranoic thought that you are gay without being gay, or that people think you are gay.

    I have OCD, but mine is different: I think too much about something that may not happen, if people will tell everyone that I'm gay, If they will discover something and put on social media. I used to think this everyday. But, you know what? Being gay is not wrong and I always focus on that, so everything that could happen to me, it was not my fault ^^

    Always expressed my thoughts to my parents and they tried to help me "curing me". So, when I realized who I am, it was difficult, because I didn't have anyone to talk to. So I came out to my best friends, and they are really supportive.

    If you are still not sure, what about answering "i am not sure" to the people around you? Nothing wrong being unsure, you live your life against this normative society, so how do you expect to understand yourself like the other people do? Sometimes I quite do not like the term "gay" for me, even telling you all of these. In the beginning of the world, girls would turn me on, but later they would not do anymore. If I tell someone I am gay and it suddenly changes, people will be confused, right? They would say I am lying, But who cares? I guess you need to be the center of your own life, not caring about what the others think. :slight_smile:
     
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    I wish someone could just tell us what we are when it comes to sexuality. Maybe then I wouldn't be in this situation. I'm currently married to a woman trying to figure out how to come out to her. I wish I had done words of wisdom, unfortunately I don't. But being on EC will help :slight_smile: there is more support here than anywhere I know.
     
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    One of the scariest thoughts is "I'm not straight"

    Sounds very much like where your head is right now.

    Your haven't felt strong attraction or emotions towards anyone, male or female. Perhaps you're on the asexual scale? Or perhaps you're not letting yourself have a real look around you? Because you don't know who you are attracted to?
     
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    Haha thats why I consider myself bi, Im personally more into women but I do have to go the other way sometimes, I just accept it for what it is. Don't be ashamed of who you are.I personally don't like labels however it is human nature and a way to differentiate one another.
     
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    I just realize how long that topic start is, sorry! I really had to write that off..


    I'm attracted to guys very similar to me(well that's what I think): normal looking guys you don't think they would be gay. Very friendly looking, average height. I'm sexually attracted to the same description.

    I do like girls that are cute, short hair, small breasts, short length, small waist.
    For example, I really like the looks of the girl on the left and can't care much about the other two:
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    According to my friends she looks like a boy.

    I don't know what I feel. One moment I feel these butterflies, then suddenly I cannot imagine myself with a guy, not even kissing. It just all feels weird.

    I did think there was a problem with me that I never had a girlfriend or didn't even care about having a partner. But since I live on my own and I'm getting older, this is slowly changing.

    And yes, I am sexually attracted to guys. I can't resist not to watch if a guy walks by that fits my "criteria".


    I told two people I "know" through another forum and they were very accepting. This helped a lot feeling better and allowing myself to even type about it on this forum.


    Ahh men, that must be difficult. I had and still have the thoughts why not just marry a woman, get kids and go on with my life with her.

    My scary thought is "am I sure that I am gay?". It is not that I can't come out, I know everyone will be very accepting. It is just that once you come out, you can't go back and people expect certain behavior. All the stereotyping of gays is what worries me. I don't like the flamboyant stuff or the girlish-gay way of talking.

    When relieving steam I cannot remember I ever fantasized about males or females. This only came when I was living on myself.. Mostly thinking about guys but occasionally girls(which was much harder to be honest).

    I do feel a strong attraction to guys but I am so afraid it is just a phase, maybe a fantasy or whatever and the real deal is completely different. That's the thing that distresses me the most and is so scary.

    It's all these emotion in the head that are changing constantly.. the stress levels in my body and mind are higher than ever where "being not sure" is the biggest contributor.

    So, about 23hrs to go before I have a date with this guy.. So scared and confused right now! :confused:
     
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    Married while questioning your sexuality sucks. Married while knowing your gay, even worse. I could not imagine also having kids and trying to sort this out don't know if I could survive that.

    You have a date? Wow, jealous! Anyway, yet put all the fear out of your mind and just enjoy your time. See what happens... And then report back lol if you want ha ha
     
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    This isn't much help to anyone here but I'm going to say it anyway. I always knew I was attracted to boys/men. Always. 100% no doubt. It has really intrigued me reading about the experiences of so many people that didn't have that same instinct. However I am incredibly sexually driven which from what I've read here seems to make a difference. People that have low or no sex drive maybe have less reason to be interested in physical gender and more interest in personality. That must make it hard. I imagine how many close female friends I have and wonder how differently I would have felt towards them if I didn't have such a dominating sex drive... hmmm
     
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    Yup, I know people that are like that as well. I find it quite amazing that people know at a young age, while there's people like me that don't find out until later for whatever reason.
     
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    Same here (about sexual drive). But when the libido disappears the confusion starts over again. Like if I needed to be 100% of the time thinking about men. Most of the time while turned on, i feel that i can make anything, but when the libido is gone, i sometimes regret my behaviors (not about being gay, but about acting like a pervert, or talking about naughty/dirty sexual speech, acting, behaviors in general). Isn't that weird?
     
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    I completely understand that. I think it's maybe just social convention taking back over once the animal instinct is satisfied. That awkward moment that can come right after the act and you're left looking at the two empty bottles of baby lotion, half a cucumber and inflatable crocodile saying 'let's forget about all that, would you like a cup of tea?'. That sort of thing.... :confused:
    But seriously I do think for some (not all) that same social pressure can lead to the thought of "that's wrong, I'd better have some hetero' thoughts/relations to cancel out the gay" just after a same sex encounter.
     
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    Wow, this was one of the scariest things in my life.. I had the date tonight. It went incredibly smooth! All worries for nothing. We both talked all the time, had dinner and then went to another bar to drink, without awkward silences. It probably helped that we already talked for several months over whatsapp before finally meeting.

    I can't place the feeling but it was like we knew each other and it felt very comfortable, even the small silences. If you didn't know how we met each other online, I wouldn't guess the guy is gay(just like me).


    This is part of my problem. I only think about guys but after finishing I start to doubt myself. Maybe this is the result of the stamp that society puts on you and the kind of behavior that is expected.


    When we came home we texted each other that we enjoyed it a lot and I told him we should meet again. I hope my feelings will become more clear in the coming weeks.
     
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    Maybe part of your concern was that you have subscribed to a certain gay stereotype that you don't find appealing. You were worried that to be gay you had to be like the outrageous loud and proud rainbow caricatures that you see in the media but now you know being in a relationship with a man doesn't mean you have to change who you are or be with someone that makes you uncomfortable.
    Sounds like it was a good experience.
     
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    Happy that you had a good time.

    I hope that you figure things out so that you can enjoy life!
     
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    The key here is time: Only *you* will know what feels right and when and only *you* will feel comfortable when the right person comes along...

    I'm giving myself this advice constantly: love yourself (unconditionally) before someone else. (*hug*)
     
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    Yeah, I think this is one of the struggles I have not to come out to anyone or accept my feelings. I do not identify with all that pink rainbow happiness and girly behavior that some have(you only see those in real life).

    Officially gay people can walk hand in hand on the streets and marry here but when I hear my colleagues calling someone gay for the sake of it or even young kinds swearing and calling each other gay, there is still a long way to go..

    As long as people call each other gay at random, there is a certain stigma and negative aspect attached to the word and this makes me afraid to come out..

    After this date I now see that there are guys that behave like any other guy and you would never have guessed he is gay. Just like everyone(including very close friends) is assuming I want a girlfriend.

    The past days I have these feelings of euphoria, tense, day dreaming but also confused and stressed. My days start early and I am in a very good mood. I really can't wait for the first touch or kiss. It now feels like I am craving just to touch his hands or face which feels pretty weird at the same time. I do not know if these feelings are part of being in love as I never felt what being in love is.


    You guys are so awesome in supporting me and others here. Things are starting to become more and more clear! :slight_smile:
     
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    The best thing you can do for gay acceptance is to be yourself, if you hear someone call someone else gay and it offends you or someone else then say something.

    I'm afraid of coming out too, each time I tell someone it is extremely stressful but seconds afterwards it is like a huge weight lifted, but for me it is not a big coming out transformation because I fit your criteria lol. I'm just a regular guy that most people would never suspect of being anything but straight and that most likely wont change.

    Glad you found someone you like, you seem to have clicked.

    Awkward silences are a big fear of mine on a first date, maybe thats why I have not had one lol.
     
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    I do think you are right but I'm not out of the closet yet so it is difficult to always comment to it.

    I was really amazed and it is an eyeopener for me that there are 'regular guys' that are in fact gay. I know, very bad of me but I never experienced it and they definitely don't tell you that on school. It allows me to accept my feelings better.

    Awkward silences was one thing that I was afraid of too(and the fact of meeting someone you met over the internet with one purpose). We didn't call it dating, just getting dinner and a drink. And that is now the night actually proceeded: we just talked about random stuff and showed interest in the other with these extremely standard questions. As long as you and your date don't respond with only 'yes' and 'no' I'm sure you will be fine too! Silences are OK too!

    If you are afraid of silences, make sure you and your date have something to do like dinner, wall climbing, cycling, whatever simple activity. It gives you a very good excuse not to say anything for a while.
     
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    Not all gay guys are camp or feminine, it's not difficult to find someone who is more like yourself if you know the right place to look. However that doesn't mean it's bad to be a feminine man or just a bit more flamboyant, just different.
    I used to work on the 'gay scene' and I met a lot of different types of people, some comfortably out, some still hiding being a mask - from a butch straight one to a rainbow camp one. At the end of the day every one of them/us is looking for the same things, happiness, acceptance and love. Be open to find it wherever it is and from whoever offers it and there's enough for everyone.
     
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    Sticking up for gay rights isn't exactly admitting you are gay but I understand what you mean.

    I definitely dont mean to offend anyone when I said "regular guy" nothing wrong with being feminine at all, I have a more feminine side to me. It's just that the masculine side of me is more developed.

    I never identified with the really flamboyant type though so it really is nice knowing that people like us exist.