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"Gay" men who have sex with women.

Discussion in 'Sexual Orientation' started by sailornaruto39, Apr 24, 2016.

  1. sailornaruto39

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    https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/the-gay-men-who-have-sex-with-women


    Am I the only one that read that article and think they are totally homodominant bisexual or at least homoflexible?

    Not so much because they've had sex with women, but because of the things some of them said.
    I try to take people's word for it when it comes to their sexuality ,but when their actions AND words contradict that I can't help but think they're a little ignorant and lack a bit of self awareness.

    Also please no "I don't believe in labels" or "why do you care" comments.

    I have concerns because I feel things like that contribute to bi-erasure and make discuss sexuality in a rather reductive way.

    I feel this way for a lot of supposed monosexuals who sometimes engage in sex that demonstrates otherwise.
     
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    I think it depends on how you define bisexuality. If a guy has genuine sexual attraction to both men and women, he's certainly bi. But I think this article might be touching on a different issue: the gay men who are so self-loathing and have a ton of internalized homophobia that they are 'putting on a mask' and having sex with women in order to 'fit in'. EC has q ute a few men who are gay, knew they were gay, and yet married women in order to fit in.

    I see that as completely different from those who don't acknowledge that people can have genuine attraction to both men and women.

    On a separate note, I'm on a campaign to get rid of the ridiculous, dramatic, and inaccurate word 'erasure' used in the context of this post. No one is going around and systematically trying to 'erase' anyone's identity. They may not agree with it, but they are not trying to obliterate all signs that it ever existed, so using a more accurate and less emotional term serves the goal of helping people to understand and be sensitive to them sauce.
     
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    (If he has had sex with 3 girls, he probably isn't a 6 on the Kinsey scale)
     
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    Well the thing is the guys in this vid are openly "gay" but say and do things that really make them bisexual. But I think internalized biphobia would be a better way to to describe it.

    As for the erasure part. I wasn't trying to say that they are doing it intentionally and maliciously, but they are still doing it in a sense. Insisting that something that seem to be somewhat clearly to be bisexual as not sounds like erasure.

    And what does that mean they don't agree with bisexuality? As in they don't think it exists?

    I have a problem with storeis like that because it spreads misinformation IMO about bisexuality.

    These guys are totally bisexual. But they seem to think that because they are 50/50 and largely like one side they aren't.


    That's what I'm thinking
    How isn't that erasure then?
     
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    Hello all hope everyone is doing well.

    So I'm looking for some advice. I'm 29 year old male and for the last four years almost everywhere I go people always assume I'm homosexual. Its not paranoia and ilI explain why. I Went to a family members party and as soon as I walked in all eyes where on me I could see the people snickering and laughing but I paid it no mind. Fast forward after the majority of people left I could hear one of the girls and my family member arguing about how they should tell me im gay and my cousin saying no(music was off they though I was paseed out). Next recently I started working a new job and everyone is cold towards me. Now I'm not expecting them to be my friend but there is a look of disgust when people see me and some of them would be having a conversation and stop once I walk in. Also I was staying with a childhood friend and one night I heard him and his wife arguing and she said "your friend is a faggot and I want him out of my house" I have since left there. Some of my neighbors drove by my job yesterday I could see them shaking their head and laughing.These are a couple examples but this is a constant thing

    2 years ago I lost my job and just had bad luck looking for work. I had some money saved so I paid my rent for 3 months which was a mistake because most of my savings was gone. I was homless for a while I lived in a shelter and has since relocated to another state and found work. Some days I didn't eat and really had no where to turn for money. I lost alot of weight but I have always been a slim guy and after losing about 20 lbs I'm now a really skinny guy. I was never called gay before all this at least to my face, I was a handsome guy and I have been with a lot of women and still love women. The other day I got cough checking out a lady that came into my job and my coworker just shook his head(typing it now it's pretty funny lol).

    I have tried to gay test myself and watch gay porn but I didn't like it no hardon or nothing. I tried gay surveys online chatting with guys even received pictures and nothing. Then I go outside and it's back to reality I guess.

    So finally how do you know If your really gay is it a attraction as a child, do I need to go out with a guy, see a professional or am I just lying to myself and just need to admit the truth. I don't know anyone who is gay that's why I'm here. I'm not looking for anyone like me or even talk to me it's the why that's bothering me. I know it sounds like cowardice and at first I was like fuckem they don't know me but I need some help on finding out the truth now.

    Thank you in advance sorry for the long passage and if the grammer is bad.
     
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    You don't get hard at the sign of men, you've never been with a man and love women.

    You're not gay and don't even have a good reason to be questioning, IMO. You sound straight as an arrow. Are you a pretty guy? Are you flamboyant or feminine? I can't imagine that you have all this experiences yet you look/act like a typical cishet guy.

    If you are only questioning yourself due to other people's baseless assumptions you need not be worried, you're not gay at all.
     
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    Thanks for responding,

    I don't think I look pretty normal but if hear something often enough then I should at least question it.