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Discussion in 'Sexual Orientation' started by ConfusedMan12, Nov 30, 2016.

  1. ConfusedMan12

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    Hi all,

    I need some advice and help regarding my orientation, I apologize for the long post.

    So my story goes that I am a 30 year old man with 2 kids and currently have a girlfriend.

    For the best part of 12 years now I have been on and off going over my sexuality with a fine tooth comb and trying to figure out what I identify as.

    The initial questioning started for me when I was 14, I was watching a TV show where they had a female model wired up to a machine to test her reactions and they showed a picture of David Beckham topless. Her reaction was an increased heart rate and she got all flustered, I noticed that my heart rate also increased which made me question myself. I was always teased in school and frequently called gay because I was left handed, silly I know. All of my crushes throughout my life have been on females and I don’t recall (unless I was ignoring it) crushing over any men/boys.

    This suddenly moved on and by age 17 I was in a relationship with my first girlfriend. When we were together, I had no problems with erections or being turned on and I lost my virginity to her. I remember being about a year in to this relationship when I got really, really depressed about the possibility I was gay. The main reason for me thinking I was gay was because I got this reaction seeing topless men. I told my girlfriend at the time of how I was feeling and how depressed I was and it pretty much ended our relationship and I was devastated.

    From then on, I was single for 6 months or so, had a one night stand with a female, again no problem in the downstairs department. I then met another girl, whom I was in a relationship with for 5 years (although how it lasted that long I will never know). When we first met face to face, one thing led to another and we ended up in bed together and I literally spent the whole night led there with an erection, all I wanted to do was have sex. We didn’t actually end up having sex but still. As things developed, she told me her brother was gay and initially this caused me to start questioning my own sexuality again. We ended up having a child together however split not long after he was born, this was mutual.

    Again, time passed and I stayed single for 2 years, in that time I hooked up with a few women and probably had about 10 one night stands, again no issues with the sexual side of things and most of the time I was really turned on by wanting to have sex with these women.

    Ok as for now, I am with my girlfriend and have been for 3 years, we have a child together also. When we first met, we were probably having sex every single time we saw each other, if not every other and sometimes 2-3 times a day. The sex side of things has slowed down a lot since and I find myself either not wanting sex at all or struggling to get/maintain erections.

    I have been looking over the forums a lot recently and noticed that many people say “who do you fantasise about when you masturbate” and things like that when someone is questioning their sexuality. Well, I can say that I have never fantasized about men when masturbating and when I do watch porn, it’s normally straight or lesbian. I have watched gay porn but only to see if I could get aroused by it or not, as of yet I haven’t been able too. All of my sexual dreams have been about women (except one that I can remember, but this one caused me huge anxiety).

    I know a lot has been said about “H-OCD” and I am aware that it is just OCD. I was actually diagnosed with this but I doubt it. I find myself avoiding things (like TV shows with good looking men in as it triggers my doubts because I recognize their attractiveness) and as for other OCD manifestations I have had a few, they have been saying a prayer at night before I went to sleep about my family and if I didn’t do it right, I would have to repeat it otherwise I was scared they would be harmed. I used to tap things a lot (still do to a degree) and if I didn’t do it right, I would need to do it until it was right. I used to make sure that I aligned the cutlery dead straight on the dinner table. I feel the need to count when I am drinking as my gulps need to be an even number. When I was younger, I had a fear that my heart was going to stop and it would cause anxiety and make me panic. I cannot keep the volume on the TV/Radio on an odd number, it has to be even. If I watch the clock on a football match and it is ticking over to the next minute, I have to watch it go past.

    There are more but I don’t want to waste anyone’s time.

    Another reason that makes me question myself is that I am not the stereotypical sort of guy that makes comments like “look at the tits on that” or “id love to smash her”, like a lot of my friends do.

    I know there is nothing wrong with being gay, I have said to myself many a time that I am gay and that’s OK, but I still find myself questioning. In the worst cases, it is debilitating and I literally struggle to cope. I have thought that I am in denial and looked for ways to over come denial but nothing works. I have told my parents and I have told my current partner, which at the time alleviated some of the anxiety and made me feel better, but then it comes back again.

    I have called an LGBT support line (several times!) and they said it sounds like an anxiety disorder, but I still can’t shake this.

    Can anyone relate to this, or does anyone have any thoughts?

    I appreciate it’s a stupidly long post but thank you for taking the time to read this.
     
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    I'd concur with the hotline. Nothing in what you describe sounds in any way like you have attraction to men. If you already have an OCD diagnosis, the symptoms you describe are consistent with OCD-like behavior so this is likely an anxiety issue. I'd suggest discussing with a therapist or psychiatrist.
     
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    Agreed! It doesn't sound, from anything that you've posted, that you're gay. I admire your willingness to accept it if it were to be true though...that shows strong character. I do agree with Chip though and think you'd most likely be best served to contact professional help. This is not a sign of weakness but a reach out for understanding. It does sound as if it is an anxiety related issue (which my bf suffers from) and a professional would be able to help you down that path. Either way, gay or straight, you have friends here who are willing to listen and help. Don't let this build up though...anxiety can become crippling which I've had to help my bf through. Please seek the help so you'll be better able to help yourself through this trying time. You don't have to shoulder it alone.
     
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    Thanks for the reply guys, it is really appreciated.

    This is literally something that plagues me every day (mostly every day) and I literally think about it from the minute I wake up until the moment I go to sleep.

    I find myself avoiding TV shows, newspapers, magazines etc...just because there may be a good looking guy in it and it will cause me to doubt myself. I even find myself sometimes looking for these things just to test my reactions to them, hoping it will be better.
     
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    That's pretty clearly a set of symptoms totally consistent with OCD. You might want to check out the book "Brain Lock" which is a self-help for dealing with obsessive thoughts. If it isn't something you're able to handle yourself, then you may need to consider medication.
     
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    Hi Chip,

    Thank you for your reply.

    I have just started medication called Sertraline so hopefully that will start to kick in shortly.

    I will have a look at the book you've mentioned there and I can't thank you enough for your help and honest feedback.
     
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    Hi Chip,

    Is it natural that I come over all hot if I notice a good looking guy or something? Like a burning sensation in my face (almost an embarrassed feeling).

    I should mention that I think I suffer with social anxiety as well, if I am the focus of attention I start to sweat a lot and feel the need to escape, even at work when dealing with customers.
     
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    Can anyone help?
     
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    Prehaps you're nervous when interacting with attractive people and your anxiety kicks in. I don't suffer from social anxiety but you wanted someone to respond. Hopefully Chip sees the post again.
     
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    Dude,

    First off, I've been where you are. I pulled myself out of the never-ending thought cycle and so can you. It's going to take time and likely will be a gradual transition.

    There are a lot of attractive people out there, and they are going to catch your attention, regardless of whether they are male or female. Gay, straight, bi, whatever, everyone is checking everyone out.

    I know it's been said a million times already, but society likes everything to be black and white. The reality is that for the most part, we exist in the grey areas.

    Start accepting yourself and loving yourself. So what if you might or might not be attracted to a dude. You can think someone is attractive without the having desire to fuck them.

    It's rare that anyone is 100% gay or straight. Lots of people fall somewhere in-between. It's all a spectrum and sometimes it's even fluid.

    You have to let go of the need to be 100% certain - that's what's driving you crazy.

    You don't need to be attracted to every woman you see and you don't need to be repulsed by every man you see.

    I think some guys are attractive, but all my sexual fantasies are with women and I enjoy having sex with them, so I'm going to keep doing that. I'm still not sure what that makes me, but who cares.

    Live your life and enjoy the company of all the beautiful people in it. Fuck labels man.

    Help your brain and body. Here are some all natural supplements that worked to get me back on track.

    Brain supplements:
    - 5HTP (Increases serotonin, making you happier)
    - Innositol (Helps with obsessive mind chatter)

    Sex supplements (give you back your sexual energy):
    - Horny Goat Weed
    - Pine Pollen
    - Korean Red Ginseng
    - Ginko Biloba
    - Maca

    EXERCISE and eat healthy!
     
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    Hey ConfusedMan12, there are all sorts of involuntary responses that our bodies may have when we are attracted to someone. Among those are blushing, as you seem to be describing (getting all hot and having a burning sensation in your face and ears). Other involuntary responses along these lines are sweating (especially palms), a racing heart, and fluttering (also called butterflies) in the stomach.
     
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    Hi mate,

    So my question basically is does that mean I'm attracted to them? Does that mean that I'm gay?

    I am so confused by all of this, I don't get that reaction when I see a good looking woman, but I do get it when I'm socially anxious.

    I am just trying to figure out the meaning of it all.
     
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    Hey ConfusedMan12,

    If your body is reacting like that in the presence of certain people, then it would seem to be telling you that it finds them attractive, whether you consciously recognize it or not.

    Does it happen consistently for you when you see certain types of guys? What about women?

    And, as others have indicated on this thread, if you are dealing with OCD, it would seem to be much more important to focus on that first rather than your sexuality, first. Even if your body is sending you clear signals about who you are attracted to, OCD could continue to confuse that in your mind.

    Just some thoughts.
     
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    Hey mate,

    I don't always get the blushed, hot type feeling, I only ever get that when I get embarrassed or socially anxious, but I notice I have gotten it before, for example, seeing a gay person on TV or when reading/seeing something related to homosexuality.

    I thought I was attracted to women but I don't get any of those feelings around women, no heart racing or blushing feelings.
     
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    TBH, ConfusedMan12, seeing a gay person on TV or reading something about homosexuality, in general, would be irrelevant. Your body doesn't know anything about the terms heterosexuality or homosexuality. It just knows who it/you find attractive.

    Sexual arousal from pornography - even a romantic story whether it is homosexual in nature or not - isn't really a good indicator.

    But again, if you are dealing with OCD, I would think (I'm not all that knowledgeable about OCD) that it would just tend to confuse your journey to understand and accept your sexuality. Getting help with your OCD would seem to be your first priority. Running around in mental circles fretting about your sexuality doesn't seem to be productive, does it?

    And, ultimately, only you can understand and accept your own sexuality, regardless of anything I or anyone else may opine.:slight_smile:
     
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    That's all I find myself doing, going around in circles asking questions in my head.

    I literally have no idea how to stop it.
     
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    Why not take Chip's advice and find a therapist to help you with it? As he said, OCD is not something you can deal with on your own and sometimes even requires medications. So seeking outside help would seem to be essential, don't you think?

    He also mentioned a book that you could read that might help you understand OCD a little better.
     
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    I know I need to stop the mental questioning and checking etc...it's just so difficult.

    It's literally like my mind saying "how can you be gay when you've been very aroused with women", but then I'll question that with something else that happened, like my heart beating seeing an attractive guy...and the cycle continues.
     
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    That's why you need to find professional help.

    Do you have a plan for doing so?
     
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    I was seeing an OCD therapist but I couldn't afford to keep going as it was so expensive.

    As of now, I've seen my doctor who has referred me for counselling but that's it.