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LGBT News UK PM on gays kissing in public

Discussion in 'Current Events, World News, & LGBT News' started by PatrickUK, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. PatrickUK

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    Good response from Dave Cameron! He's made it crystal clear about his family values, including modern homosexual marriages and that's good to hear.

    Its a stupid question though, he should be asking important questions about government. He knows Cameron supported gay marriage and is just trying to catch him out with the support of the left wing BBC.
     
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    Damn. I hate it when Tories do something smart.
    It pains me to say......Well done... Dave
     
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    Good for him!! He answered it so casually and as if there's no problem at all :slight_smile:.
     
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    The Conservative Party isn't inherently bad.. I actually agree with a lot of their values and policies.. especially if it's a small 'c' conservative.. just wish some of their nuttier members would disappear (George Osborne).

    Good for him though - considering that he has a bunch of nutty back-benchers to try and appease, and considering that a lot of his core voters probably aren't the most liberal bunch around, I have no reason to doubt what he is saying is sincere.
     
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    *rubs eyes*

    Hmm, maybe there's something wrong with the screen...
     
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    *Cameron treats us as human*

    *LGBT people think that it's a revolutionary step requiring active praise*
     
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    Well, I wouldn't vote for them, especially with their current economic policies - but no, I don't think the Tory ideology is an inherently bad thing. I don't agree with all of it but some of it.
     
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    Yeah. Anyway, I don't like that whole family value angle. Sure, if people want to get married, they should be able to. But it isn't a morally superior position.

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    I disagree. But it's too late for an argument.
     
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    It seems to be qualifying our existence; as long as we fit into a formerly exclusively heterosexual lifestyle, and as long as we stick by his morals, we're okay.

    There are worse things that he could do, but it's not the same sort of acceptance that I'd like, regardless how I personally want to live.
     
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    Conservatives being progressive???
    Someone pinch me.

    I wish he hadn't said he wanted more same-gender couples adopting. That's a completely unrelated matter and it annoys me for some perplexing reason.
     
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    Cameron's surprisingly good when it comes to gay equality. Yeah he's a Tory, but he's got some things right.
     
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    Lol, if only "conservative" here in the United States refered to people like that. After their constant negative comments against gays, I almost wince at the word.
     
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    DC, some of the cabinet and I suppose Boris are alright when it comes to equality. Still far too many back benchers and grassroots members who would prefer the party to be UKIP lite with policies Mrs Thatcher would approve of.
     
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    Good for him. I'm a Thatcherite Conservative (or would be if I lived in the UK) and supported him in 2010. I soured on him around 2012, but his recent support for the Jewish people and Israel and things like this have brought me back to the fold :slight_smile:

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    Also, some of the comments here are truly ridiculous. Conservatives are bad no matter what to some of the far-left people here.

    Don't whine about the right not be accepting and then whine about the right have some members being accepting of gay rights. You can't have both.
     
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    Yep everyone hates the Tories, but most people can't even give a reason. Most people (particularly the middle class militant left on this forum) would rather have a government who spends its way to bankruptcy to leave future generations to clean up our mess.
     
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    Uh, no, not really. 'Spending to bankruptcy' is is the go-to response from anyone who leans to the right - simply accusing the other major party of being fiscally irresponsible is not a sound economic policy (especially when such a claim is bogus), and unfortunately that's what the Tories harp on about the most.

    And I take offense to being called 'middle class' or a 'militant leftist' - neither are even remotely accurate.
     
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    Nobody's complaining about his support. People are complaining about the traditional family label he wants to slap on everything, which is not the same thing.

    The complaint I was making is that he's seen as being a wonderful supporter deserving of thanks, not the bare minimum of what acceptance should be.

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    First, I'm not sure you know what "militant" means. And on top of that, most of the hard leftists here are working-class.

    Second, I'm not sure how you can say that "most people can't even give a reason" when I have seen literal paragraphs explaining what people find wrong with the UK Conservatives.

    Third, you're making an exaggerated claim about "spending its way to bankruptcy" without any examples of in what manner that's done, nor anyone who supports it.

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    And perhaps a fourth point; how on Earth was any of that relevant?
     
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    If you don't want to 'family label' then don't get married, David Cameron is giving people the choice of being married and is not forcing anything upon anyone,

    An example of spending to bankruptcy is the Labour Party, who required assistance from the IMF in the 1970s through socialist policies. They ruined the UK economy a second time, this time through capitalist policies, the deficit was £15.6bn in 1997 then rose to £148.6bn when they left office. That is a fact published by the left wing Guardian of all newspapers. That's just the economy, how about illegal Foreign Policy, or uncontrolled immigration, or perhaps numerous scandals including cash for peerages, or perhaps devolution. Sickening policies.

    Deficit, national debt and government borrowing - how has it changed since 1946? | News | theguardian.com
     
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    To be fair, he is trying to sell these ideas to Conservative politicians, members and voters who are wayy behind even the point of basic acceptance. More Cons voted against gay marriage then for in spite of him trying to sell it as pro family values or whatever. I do feel like DC is genuinely pretty accepting of gay people whether they're marry and kids type or not, but he has to be political about it you know..

    I don't think people should quibble about his record on gay rights whatever they think of him for other reasons