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Gay guys - would you date a male crossdresser?

Discussion in 'Coming Out Advice' started by SFSorrow, Aug 10, 2012.

  1. SFSorrow

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    This is mainly a question for gay guys who like masculine guys: what would be your thoughts on dating a guy who the vast majority of the time presented as completely masculine in mannerisms etc. but occasionally liked to crossdress? Would it completely put you off? I'm wondering because, well, I'm one of them. I was reading about drag queens and a lot of comments from gay guys on articles said that as soon as they found out a guy was involved in that they'd instantly lose interest because they wanted a man. Although I wouldn't call myself a drag queen the same principle would apply, presumably even more so.
     
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    I think my answer would be, It depends.

    I have known 2 quite ordinary men who found it very exciting to "dress" for sex.

    That wouldn't bother me so much, provided it wasn't all we did - occasionally would be fine.

    If you were asking me to be out in public or to meet friends "dressed". then I think it would be an issue which I would find harder to deal with.

    It has nothing to do with shame or denial, but more to do with the fact that I am gay because I like men as partners, not women.

    If you were able to be "male" most of the time with an occasional forray into cross-dressing as variety, I could probably date under those cicumstances.
     
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    That surprises me, I'd have expected it to be the other way around.
     
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    I'm really not being judgemental - to each his own - but you asked how I would feel.

    You've listed yourself as a cross-dresser. To what extent? Are you thinking about cross-dressing most of the time, or are you evaluating the possibilities of it being a feature of a future relationship?
     
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    I'd say no....but I'm not sure if that's from an internal homophobia of me not wanting to have to explain my boyfriend to others or simply because I legitimately don't find that attractive.
     
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    I understand, I was just surprised as it wasn't what I expected.

    I'm an occasional crossdresser, I have no intention or desire to go full time or making it a 'feature' as such. I mainly do it for occasional nights out, I just like getting dressed up and enjoy doing make-up. I've toyed with the idea that I should identify as genderqueer but so far haven't chosen to do so.
     
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    So, in a way, you're like the two guys I knew, who did it for a bit of excitement occasionally.

    Are you "convincing" - I believe the phrase is? The two I knew looked like a pair of maiden aunts LOL but I can imagine it being exciting going out with someone and for no-one to realize :wink:
     
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    I've been told I look extremely good and could pass if I wanted to (passing is the term usually used for being convincing, apparently), but I've never tried to go the whole way with a wig and everything, my style is closer to gothy genderfuck. In fact although it might be fun to try doing the complete look, and maybe I will try it sometime, I prefer blending male and female characteristics, it looks weirder.
     
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    It sounds like you think of your created image as a work of art, like an installation, rather than as something that you do for sexual excitement, although it could be both, I guess.
     
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    Id gave to say it depended soley on personality
     
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    If a guy doesn't like you because you enjoy drag, then he doesn't like you for who you really are. My boyfriend is on the masculine side of things, but if he wanted to get into drag, then I'd adore helping find him some killer heels and seeing him have fun being fabulous! And I know he's the same with me, I'm always adoring the trashiest shoes whenever we go out :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: And if they're not attracted to you when you're in drag, well you're just a bit of a present to unwrap then, aren't you? When you're in a relationship for a while, mating rituals fly out of the window and it's no longer about trying to look your most attractive. You see each other in the least attractive situations and you still love them just as much afterwards. In short, you come as a package, and you shouldn't be expected to change any harmless habits to please anyone.
     
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    I'm not sure how I think of it, it's changed over time as it used to be more sexual but nowadays 'work of art' might be more quite a good way of describing it. I've been doing it for a lot longer than I've been aware of not being straight in my attractions. In fact as I read that most crossdressers were straight I, probably somewhat confusingly to most people, used my crossdressing as a way of telling myself I must be straight when I did start to question my orientation.

    I'm still figuring out exactly what it means for my identity. it's not completely stable, but I'm pretty certain that I don't want to transition or live full time as a woman, I'd definitely identify as male (or perhaps masculine is a better term) the vast majority of the time so anybody in a relationship with me would be with a man, just one who has a compulsion that grows and has to have the pressure released every now and then. Which is exactly how I've heard other crossdresers describe their relationship with their wives. Come to think of it there aren't really any other crossdressers on here, perhaps I should find a forum dedicated to it.

    ---------- Post added 10th Aug 2012 at 01:25 PM ----------

    Reading back over all that it does sound rather confused and confusing.

    ---------- Post added 10th Aug 2012 at 01:35 PM ----------

    Thanks for this message, it was definitely reassuring to hear, this is the kind of reaction I'd hope for. I've been worrying that it might be a major issue for me trying to find someone to accept it because of the inconsistent gender expression if you see what I mean.
     
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    No - I'm not confused by what you say.

    I don't know any straight cross-dressers, only the men I mentioned who would probably be best-described as bisexual. Both had been married, one had a girl-friend and cross-dressed and met men on the side, and the other who was a widower, completely out, and his teenage daughter helped him with his make-up and outfits.

    I find the subject "interesting" but out of curiosity rather than because it's something I want to do. I'm probably more likely to do the opposite to dressing up and become a naturist!

    Now that WOULD be scary :eek:

    I remember a long while back a programme on TV about a guy who had taken over his family's shoe business which was struggling. He took the company into the production of large sizes of "specialist" shoes and boots for cross-dressers - I can even remember he modelled them at trade-fairs and such.
     
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    I feel like I would be dead set against it n the past, because of coming to terms and all that, but lately, I've been playing around with the ideas of drag for myself. It seems like it could be fun. I mean, I wouldn't do that like all the time, but I feel like it would be just so out of my comfort zone, it would be awesome...hah.
    But I wouldn't have a problem dating someone who cross-dressed. If my boyfriend did that now, I think it would be neat. But I think it would be more for a public spectacle if we were to do it, and not just because it's something we like to do.
    Like, we would be famous :3 haha
     
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    Oh I'd do it for fun - I did once play the role of An Ugly Sister in a pantomime of Cinderella - blonde wig, short skirt, frilly knickers, maternity bra packed with rice and a skinny, skinny tight red top, make-up - the works.

    AND I got to dance with Prince Charming, who was ugly, but it was magic! :roflmao:

    Priscilla, Queen of the Desert, anyone? One of my favourite, feel-good films ever.

    But I guess that doesn't really address the OP.
     
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    God, yes.
     
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    I as a (possible) lesbian don't mind when girls cross dress. I mean I guess it is different.. sort of since *stereotypically* lesbians dress manly-ish. But I actually kind of like when a girl wears a suit or something. I'm telling you this because if there are girls that are cool with it I'm sure there are men who are as well.
     
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    Maybe. It kinda depends on the severity of the cross-dressing like if its something he has to do on a daily basis then probably not but if its just on occasion then its ok.
     
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    Of course I would. I'm into crossdressing myself. I realize the question is not directed at me though.
     
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    Honestly, no. I don't think crossdressing is quite the same as what drag queens do but either way it isn't appealing. I think guys look sexy in menswear. Same with girls in womenswear. They just fit and accentuate the body better that way. Maybe it is homophobia or maybe it is me "wanting a man," I'm not really sure. I am not in to super masculine guys however. I guess it is hard to explain.

    I guess depending on the guy, I'd give it a try because I wouldn't wanna miss out on the right guy because of that. But I'd probably want to change the guy and that is not how you should go into a relationship.