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darkcheesse · 6th Dec 2011, 06:52 PM

i've just got an old emachine because both of my computers have died, rather not get into that. so the old computer runs windows of pata, and when i put in my 500gb sata in windows get to the safe mode choice screen, then when i pick any option, the computer stays on but all get is black screen. i've left it running for 15 minutes to check if it was slow but no it does nothing. any advice?

Veronica · 6th Dec 2011, 06:59 PM

Not sure I understand what it is you're asking. Your sentences are a bit ambiguous.

So, you are trying to boot from a SATA drive in an old computer, but the OS was previously installed on an IDE drive?

darkcheesse · 6th Dec 2011, 07:02 PM

no my computer works fine with old ide in, that one my os is installed on. i use my sata drive for storage only. my computer will boot up fine, when only the ide is plugged in. but if i plug in my sata the computer won't boot futher than the safe mode choice screen, i hope thats a little less ambigous

Veronica · 6th Dec 2011, 07:08 PM

Ah. Check your boot priority in BIOS.

What Windows is it? If it's older than Vista, it may lack SATA drivers.

darkcheesse · 6th Dec 2011, 07:15 PM

nope, i've already checked that the master is the old id, i checked that first. then i made sure that hard drive was first in boot prority and i'm at a loss, like my other computers that died, why do i never get normal computer problems grrrr!!

Veronica · 6th Dec 2011, 07:16 PM

What about my second question?

darkcheesse · 6th Dec 2011, 07:24 PM

ohh sorry my bad it's xp, and it already has those drivers installed i have them on a floppy

Veronica · 6th Dec 2011, 07:29 PM

Have you run last service pack on XP? Without the SATA drive plugged in ...

darkcheesse · 6th Dec 2011, 07:31 PM

nope i havn't tried that, cheers i'll try it tomorow, thanks!!

Veronica · 6th Dec 2011, 07:34 PM

Well, that may be it. XP is pretty outdated driver-wise. It is scheduled to be dropped by MS support next year I think.

After experiencing Vista and 7, I completely dropped Windows, so I don't know much about what's happened the last 2 years

starfish · 7th Dec 2011, 10:03 PM

Windows XP went out of mainstream support back in 2009. It is in extended support until 2014. Basically that means no bug fixes only security patches.

I find it odd that the system hanges a black screen wafter the safe mode menu. There is and option on that meu for a verbose boot (Don't recall its name off the top of my head). THat will list everything it is loading. It can be helpful to see where the boo hangs at.

Veronica · 8th Dec 2011, 01:19 AM

Ah, they've extended it to 2014? Good. I still have a copy running in a VirtualBox

The NT5 kernel is the best Microsoft have ever produced. NT6 has been a huge disappointment. Especially Vista, but also Win7. I worked with Windows professionally from NT3.51/Win3.11 up to Win7/Win2008. I switched to Ubuntu about 2 years ago now, and haven't regretted it for a second.

As for the black screen, there is too little information to make a call. I think it is a driver issue, which is why I suggested running a service pack. It usually takes care of compatibility issues. Modern SATA devices are a lot newer than the original XP.

6th Dec 2011, 06:52 PM	#1
darkcheesse Well Known Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: this closet is nice and roomy! Location: manchester, england Age: 19 Posts: 214 Join Date: May 2010	hard drive problems i've just got an old emachine because both of my computers have died, rather not get into that. so the old computer runs windows of pata, and when i put in my 500gb sata in windows get to the safe mode choice screen, then when i pick any option, the computer stays on but all get is black screen. i've left it running for 15 minutes to check if it was slow but no it does nothing. any advice?

6th Dec 2011, 06:59 PM	#2
Veronica Princess of darkness Full Member Gender: Female (MtF) Orientation: ❤ women Out Status: A few friends Location: Europe Age: 35 Posts: 704 Join Date: Aug 2011	Re: hard drive problems Not sure I understand what it is you're asking. Your sentences are a bit ambiguous. So, you are trying to boot from a SATA drive in an old computer, but the OS was previously installed on an IDE drive? __________________ "When you find peace within yourself, you become the kind of person who can live at peace with others."

6th Dec 2011, 07:02 PM	#3
darkcheesse Well Known Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: this closet is nice and roomy! Location: manchester, england Age: 19 Posts: 214 Join Date: May 2010	Re: hard drive problems no my computer works fine with old ide in, that one my os is installed on. i use my sata drive for storage only. my computer will boot up fine, when only the ide is plugged in. but if i plug in my sata the computer won't boot futher than the safe mode choice screen, i hope thats a little less ambigous

6th Dec 2011, 07:08 PM	#4
Veronica Princess of darkness Full Member Gender: Female (MtF) Orientation: ❤ women Out Status: A few friends Location: Europe Age: 35 Posts: 704 Join Date: Aug 2011	Re: hard drive problems Ah. Check your boot priority in BIOS. What Windows is it? If it's older than Vista, it may lack SATA drivers. __________________ "When you find peace within yourself, you become the kind of person who can live at peace with others."

6th Dec 2011, 07:15 PM	#5
darkcheesse Well Known Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: this closet is nice and roomy! Location: manchester, england Age: 19 Posts: 214 Join Date: May 2010	Re: hard drive problems nope, i've already checked that the master is the old id, i checked that first. then i made sure that hard drive was first in boot prority and i'm at a loss, like my other computers that died, why do i never get normal computer problems grrrr!!

6th Dec 2011, 07:16 PM	#6
Veronica Princess of darkness Full Member Gender: Female (MtF) Orientation: ❤ women Out Status: A few friends Location: Europe Age: 35 Posts: 704 Join Date: Aug 2011	Re: hard drive problems What about my second question? __________________ "When you find peace within yourself, you become the kind of person who can live at peace with others."

6th Dec 2011, 07:24 PM	#7
darkcheesse Well Known Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: this closet is nice and roomy! Location: manchester, england Age: 19 Posts: 214 Join Date: May 2010	Re: hard drive problems ohh sorry my bad it's xp, and it already has those drivers installed i have them on a floppy

6th Dec 2011, 07:29 PM	#8
Veronica Princess of darkness Full Member Gender: Female (MtF) Orientation: ❤ women Out Status: A few friends Location: Europe Age: 35 Posts: 704 Join Date: Aug 2011	Re: hard drive problems Have you run last service pack on XP? Without the SATA drive plugged in ... __________________ "When you find peace within yourself, you become the kind of person who can live at peace with others."

6th Dec 2011, 07:31 PM	#9
darkcheesse Well Known Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: this closet is nice and roomy! Location: manchester, england Age: 19 Posts: 214 Join Date: May 2010	Re: hard drive problems nope i havn't tried that, cheers i'll try it tomorow, thanks!!

6th Dec 2011, 07:34 PM	#10
Veronica Princess of darkness Full Member Gender: Female (MtF) Orientation: ❤ women Out Status: A few friends Location: Europe Age: 35 Posts: 704 Join Date: Aug 2011	Re: hard drive problems Well, that may be it. XP is pretty outdated driver-wise. It is scheduled to be dropped by MS support next year I think. After experiencing Vista and 7, I completely dropped Windows, so I don't know much about what's happened the last 2 years __________________ "When you find peace within yourself, you become the kind of person who can live at peace with others."

7th Dec 2011, 10:03 PM	#11
starfish This space for lease. Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: I like guys Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Hippie Town, Alberta of the US Age: 31 Posts: 2,111 Join Date: Nov 2008	Re: hard drive problems Windows XP went out of mainstream support back in 2009. It is in extended support until 2014. Basically that means no bug fixes only security patches. I find it odd that the system hanges a black screen wafter the safe mode menu. There is and option on that meu for a verbose boot (Don't recall its name off the top of my head). THat will list everything it is loading. It can be helpful to see where the boo hangs at. __________________ All the problems of the world could be settled easily if men were only willing to think. The trouble is that men very often resort to all sorts of devices in order not to think, because thinking is such hard work. --Thomas J. Watson

8th Dec 2011, 01:19 AM	#12
Veronica Princess of darkness Full Member Gender: Female (MtF) Orientation: ❤ women Out Status: A few friends Location: Europe Age: 35 Posts: 704 Join Date: Aug 2011	Re: hard drive problems Ah, they've extended it to 2014? Good. I still have a copy running in a VirtualBox The NT5 kernel is the best Microsoft have ever produced. NT6 has been a huge disappointment. Especially Vista, but also Win7. I worked with Windows professionally from NT3.51/Win3.11 up to Win7/Win2008. I switched to Ubuntu about 2 years ago now, and haven't regretted it for a second. As for the black screen, there is too little information to make a call. I think it is a driver issue, which is why I suggested running a service pack. It usually takes care of compatibility issues. Modern SATA devices are a lot newer than the original XP. __________________ "When you find peace within yourself, you become the kind of person who can live at peace with others."

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