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  1. TheGayCaduceus

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    Well, I should probably introduce myself on a thread that doesn't have an ulterior motive.

    I'm a student at a small liberal arts college, getting ready for medical school. I've recently started questioning my sexuality, and am trying to embrace the fact that I might not be as straight as I always convinced myself I am.

    I also have been recovering from obsessive-compulsive masturbation to porn, which could be a potential explanation for the lack of sexual desire towards anyone that I have had for years.

    In terms of fun things about me...well I fence, I'm a video game nerd, but I also enjoy hiking, rock climbing, and various other outdoors activities. I consider myself masculine in a few ways, but mostly not masculine (which is a big issue for me).

    I am trying to pick up going to the gym again after a year of stopping (classes at college got really involved and I just didn't keep it up). Usually I do free weights but if anyone can suggest a good bootcamp/body weight circuit to do I'm game.

    I used to picture myself in the future as the 50s conservative family: a nice-sized house with a wife and 2-3 kids, with a dog or two and essentially everything that isn't realistic. I'm coming to terms that that might not be my future.

    I get depressed occasionally, and the episodes can last anywhere from a couple of hours to a month (the last time I was depressed). But I'm very open to my mom about this (in fact she even knows I'm questioning), and I'm working on telling my other friends.

    So...hi?
     
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    Hi there! Welcome to EC!!! Hope you'll be able to find what you've been truly searching for... Enjoy your stay in EC. There are lots of good people available in here to provide you their insights... Stick around.
     
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    Sup Homie.
     
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    Hi, Doc. Saw a few of your other posts here and there.

    I was in your shoes at one point, and I am now in my early 50's with a wife, 2 kids, nice-sized house in a conservative suburb, a couple dogs and a cat. The problem is, I finally started realizing a couple years ago that although I had managed to convince myself that it was what I wanted, the big "oops" was that I would have rather had the same things, but with a husband instead of a wife. Cue all sorts of later in life coming-out issues and complications that are slowly getting figured out.

    I know you're trying to sort things through in your head, and bravo to you for that. This is the right time to do it. There are actually people here on EC (one of the moderators, for instance) who have that idyllic life you speak of, only with a same-sex partner. It can be done, and it's a lot more accepted in parts of the country than you would think. I know you have homophobia issues in the family, and that's tough to work through. But remember this - the gay doesn't go away. If that's really your orientation, you may very fall in love with some girl somewhere along the line (I did), and build yourself a family, but in the end, you will realize how much of yourself you have shut down in the interest of that stereotypical suburban life. (And it's a lot harder to turn the boat around at my age than yours, although it definitely IS possible, and it IS happening!).

    Keep talking to us. The Later in Life section is filled with people who were in your shoes 10, 20, 30, 40 years ago and went with the idyllic life, only to realize years later that we had given up something much more crucial than we realized. We're listening!
     
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    Greetings from a fellow nerd... (although a flat-broke one who can't even afford cheap games...)

    And welcome to EC!
     
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    Thanks for all the greetings guys!

    Choirboy - that's what I feel I've been doing this whole time. I even convinced myself at one point that even if I was bi, I could just accept it and then shut away the "gay" part of me and focus on only the "hetero" side.

    My fears about not following a hetero lifestyle are:

    a) that perceptions of me will always be different than they are now. I'm afraid I won't keep/make the guy friends I have/would otherwise made. Yeah, idealistically all the guys I meet are not homophobic. I know you said that people are more open, but I hear all the slurs made by friends and family, so even if my friendships aren't completely ruined, how would I know they aren't thinking those things about me?

    b) that any kids I have might not "be mine." It's not feasible for more than one sperm to fertilize an egg, so even if a future partner and I got a surrogate, if the kid is my own flesh and blood I'm afraid I won't have the connection I feel like I should have with him/her. This one is a little hazy because I'm still not anywhere close to having kids, but still.

    c) I find out I'm *not* gay later on and can't "take back" the proclamation that I'm gay. Guys will still feel awkward around me, girls will never think of me as masculine or dateable, and things just go south from there.

    I could just be too stuck in my own head, but these are my concerns nonetheless.
     
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    :smilewave My concerns for you are these bouts of depression that you say can last up to a month. This isn't a good thing as you get set to tackle medical school. That type of pressure mixed with depression could be mentally crippling.

    You could ease your mind by not feeling you have to map out the next 30 years of your life right now. Slow down and try to focus more on the present and short-term future, and keep up your rigorous outdoor activities when you can.

    I know what it's like to be "stuck in my own head." :bang: I've dealt with it for decades.
     
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    Moshi-moshi!! ^.^
     
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    Marshmallow - lol haven't heard that in a while!

    Stingray - I agree. I tried to talk to a therapist but there was a major language/cultural barrier there (she was a native from Finland), and while really nice, I didn't feel comfortable around her. Living in the moment is one of the biggest issues I have. I always have needed to have a game plan and have been trying to stop the nostalgia/distant future focus for a long time.

    Vigorous outdoor activity sounds good. I just wish more of my friends would be willing to hike, snowboard, etc. but they're obsessed with their video games (not that I don't have my occasional obsession with a game). I think negativity breeds negativity though because 3 of my 5 suitemates are depressed in some shape or form, which might get my own depression going.
     
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    Hey what's sup? I'm sup. :slight_smile:
     
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    Hobby ho hello, Welcome to EC Nyu~
     
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    Ooh! A Hatsune Miku fan. I'm more of a Megurine Luka fan myself, but that's because she sang the first ever Vocaloid song I heard (Little Mermaid)
     
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    I like her too, her song Night Fever, but Tell Your World is one of my most favorite songs, it always gets me up when I'm feeling down Nyu~
     
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    Hi again! Just had to respond to a few of your worries. I don't think they're that unusual, really.

    I never really had guy friends, so this was never a big concern for me. Keeping the friends you currently have is always a risk, though, even if you're straight. One of my dad's biggest complaints about being married was that all his old friends had to take a back seat to my mother. Any change in life--marital status, out status, etc.--carries the risk of losing the friends we've had for a long time. I have to tell you too, that I had a number of close friends before I got married, when I was still deciding which way to go, and even though they DIDN'T know (still don't) that I'm gay, the friendship was very much affected by both my getting married AND the fact that being in the closet shut me off emotionally so badly.

    Realistically, if current friends can't accept you, are they really such good friends anyhow?

    As far as new people - I haven't been out long, so my experience there is limited. I will say, though, that most people value openness and honesty in their friends. Being gay isn't something that needs to be shouted from the rooftops, but it's also not something you have to be secretive about either. And, well, don't forget, gay men ARE guys too. There are a fair number out there who fly completely under the radar. You may very well know a few.

    This bothered me a lot when I was your age. I always wanted kids but never really bonded well with them in general, and I was afraid if they weren't biologically mine, that would be an issue. And I will admit that the fact that my oldest strongly resembles my long-dead mother has been very special to me, and my youngest has a strong resemblance to my wife's late father. But it looked for some time that we'd have to adopt, and I did struggle with it initially. I had to remind myself, though, that having kids with someone is more about who they are than their biology. It's the difference between "having" kids, like a possession of some kind (or as your own personal piece of DNA immortality), and "raising" kids, loving them. teaching them, making them people you would want to see tackle the world.

    Well....that's why you're here, right? It would be pretty hard to decide really honestly that you were gay, and then "find out" later that you're not. Take your time, talk, listen, feel, and think about who you are. And then be honest about it.

    Sorry for preaching you in the welcome thread! But feel free to talk anytime. What you're feeling and worrying about is all very normal, and all part of the process of figuring things out.
     
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    No worries Choirboy! I appreciate the conversation.

    About a, I DO know a few out gay guys, but they're mostly the stereotypical kind: the loud, obnoxious, "flaming" gays.

    In terms of my friends, well, the problem is that they're going to be my roommates again next year. If things end up horrible and awkward well...I don't want that to be my senior year of college.

    About b, your final statement really struck me. I never thought I would objectify people/kids/whatever, but it looks like I was doing just that.

    And about c, I rethought it, and I kind of worded it badly. I think it's more a concern about the fluidity of sexuality for people who identify as bisexuals. I feel like saying I'm gay will make it less likely for me to attract a girl, and in that way it effectively brings on the scenario I presented.